Sniper Rifle - Page 2

1024 · 2003-12-04, 01:10 AM

Think about how much skill that would take. Nill to none.

"Man i have to take so much aim to hit that tank."

sutserikeru · 2003-12-04, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by ten twentyfour

Think about how much skill that would take. Nill to none.

"Man i have to take so much aim to hit that tank."

then have it so the slightest move and the CoF goes so big that it cannot be seen when 8x zoom, and have the CoF time to pin point be so long that it would take a fucking miracle to hit the damn thing

Flammey · 2003-12-04, 01:24 AM

With every single shot you would have to re-aim due to the kick-back. Simple.

sutserikeru · 2003-12-04, 01:28 AM

what about reload time? they could use that to re-aim, thus having little to no effect on the acc.

Flammey · 2003-12-04, 01:55 AM

How would that be any different from sniping now? I use reload time to find new targets.

WolfA4 · 2003-12-04, 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by Flammey

You've obviously never seen modern day anti-tank weapons. There IS a sniper rifle that can hurt tanks badly. It's in the game America's Army. If it's not anti-tank, it sure is anti-something, cause, Damn, that thing blows shit up good. Also has a wicked ass kickback.

the M82 and its varients (thats the rifle you are talking about) is a .50 calibur anti-material sniper rifle. it never was meant to take out tanks. it can take out lightly armored vehicles like trucks, humvees and some armored troop carriers, it is also used to take out unexploded bombs weapons caches and people from extreme range (the world record is held by a canadian sniper from over 2 km away from his target in afghanistan) the bullet of an M82 (armor piercing raufoss round or regular ball) wouldnt hurt a modern day tank.

in WWII there were 12-14mm anti-tank sniper rifles they were basically a modified tank cannon made for a person to shoot, you may have seen it in the tremors 2 movie.

WolfA4 · 2003-12-04, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by WolfA4

the M82 and its varients (thats the rifle you are talking about) is a .50 calibur anti-material sniper rifle. it never was meant to take out tanks. it can take out lightly armored vehicles like trucks, humvees and some armored troop carriers, it is also used to take out unexploded bombs weapons caches and people from extreme range (the world record is held by a canadian sniper from over 2 km away from his target in afghanistan) the bullet of an M82 (armor piercing ralfus round or regular ball) wouldnt hurt a modern day tank.

in WWII there were 12-14mm anti-tank sniper rifles they were basically a modified tank cannon made for a person to shoot, you may have seen it in the tremors 2 movie.

heres a nice shot of an M82A1

Veteran · 2003-12-04, 03:49 AM

anti-materiel

Doppler · 2003-12-04, 06:30 AM

By the accordance of the geneva convention it is illegal to shoot a 50 cal sniper rifle at people. Only light vehciles and up, however fun fact, a person on a bicycle is considered a light vehicle

Doppler · 2003-12-04, 06:32 AM

Oh yea and if it aint broke dont mess with it in reguards to sniper rifles.

Ed the MAD · 2003-12-04, 06:47 AM

i think they should add some more sniper rifles, and a prone position(that means lying on your belly to better stabilise your position).

perhaps a less powerful, magazine fed scout rifle? much like the M-14(M-1A).

also, some sniper armour would be good, too. like, a less-than-visible ghillie suit type deal.

Flammey · 2003-12-04, 07:38 AM

Yeah, but how is the normal sniper rifle any different from my propsed Anti vehicle sniper rilfe? A great many snipers use the SR on MAXs, vehicles, turrets and deployables as it is. I see no problem with a .50 cal sniper rifle. Or a sniper rifle that is strickly armor piercing.

But whatever. It's only a thought, not a great big change.

WolfA4 · 2003-12-04, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Doppler

By the accordance of the geneva convention it is illegal to shoot a 50 cal sniper rifle at people. Only light vehciles and up, however fun fact, a person on a bicycle is considered a light vehicle

that is incorrect, that is a misconception born on the internet.

Doppler · 2003-12-04, 09:40 AM

I commend you wolf, for pointing out something to me with research I must retract my statement, however, this misconception is so persuasive that it makes its way into the military itself. I myself picked it up from an EOD guy after he had to shoot something of mine due to a miscommunication (long story)

Ed the MAD · 2003-12-04, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Flammey

Yeah, but how is the normal sniper rifle any different from my propsed Anti vehicle sniper rilfe? A great many snipers use the SR on MAXs, vehicles, turrets and deployables as it is. I see no problem with a .50 cal sniper rifle. Or a sniper rifle that is strickly armor piercing.

But whatever. It's only a thought, not a great big change.

there are no "anti-Vehicular" sniper rifles. only Anti-Material rifles. the big bore guns like the M82 and others are not considered sniper rifles by many snipers. mainly due to their tendency of being louder than fuck, and that although they are quite powerful and have an amazing distance, they are too big to use in every situation. they only use them when they plan on encountering lightly armoured targets like trucks, APCs, and the like, or they feel like engaging targets from extreme distance. otherwise, they use more managable rifles like the bolt action treats you see them with most often.

to answer your queston, a sniper rifle has several features that other rifles don't. high accuracy, low detectability, and very respectable penetration. also, you see alot of bolt action sniper rifles, with heavy, free floating barrels, five round, non-detachable magazines, and some sort of flash supressor(optional). these features are ideal. the lack of self-loading reduces recoil, and in turn, vibration(which would reduce accuracy). the free floating barrel also helps to reduce vibration, and being heavy would reduse muzzle jump. an anti material rifle is gennerally of a larger calibur, and is just downright unweildly when you want to crawl into position undetected. however, it is not unheard of to use an Anti- Material rifle on individual soldiers. but the range is considerably longer than with a Sniper Rifle. in the end, it all comes down to calibur, and the intended target.

remember, just because it has a scope and bipod, does not mean it's a sniper rifle.

oh, one final thought. isn't the Bolt Driver a .50 cal? and isn't it supposed to utilise magnetic ecceleration, which would make it hypersonic? have you ever seen what happens when a .22 cal lexan slug traveling at hypersonic speeds impacts a 12cm plate of hardend steel? it makes a hole the size of a .50 calibur bullet. remember, Force=MassxAccelleration