NC won Emerald. 1/31 - Page 2

Warborn · 2004-01-31, 11:08 PM

So the idea was that we were suppose to be surprised or impressed by this development, right? Not so jaded and indifferent that we take it all in stride as a consequence of how the game is currently balanced?

Doop · 2004-01-31, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by PorkFryer

nc suck arse! the jack hammer is for point blank noobs! every noob on games use shotguns! take cs and raven shield for example

And this, kids, is what a "fr00t" is. No, shotguns take SKILL to use. Skill is something that you get when you play for a while and acknowledge your mistakes to improve. Heard you can buy it at a cert term for like five points now, go try it out.

y r nc always outmatch vs 3/1???? nc suck vs have much better weapons

(or something like that, too lazy to actually quote)
And you just went back against your point. Saying that VS rules because they have much better weapons and NC sucks because they have a jackhammer (which is for noobs omgwtfbbq) ...gah.

As for that graph, that had NO relevance to the topic at hand. Damn.

Anyway, GJ NC, I tip my hat to you. They'll be a day when Neutral catches Auraxis, you just wait.

NEUTRAL 4EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111 1111111111
eleven

Kaymon · 2004-02-01, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Eldanesh

And if we do it mid-day what will be next? will we have to do it balencing on one hand using nothing but ants and looted beamers to mow/ram/pwee our enemies to death?

Let us have our victory, AM hours or not. Besides, I dont see VS/TR doing that, even in the AM.

Konried, summer of 03 - the TR accomplished world lock. You certainly didn't see a fraction of the ego trip we're seeing on the Emerald forum.

Madcow · 2004-02-01, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Peacemaker

True they did take over the world and that pic was taken at 8:30 EST .... AM! I was on at 3 am last night and their were no TR on. They just all attacked at 3am. not much of an accomplisment. Do it mid day and ill be impressed.

I was there with an NC alt (only play NC on Emerald) and that's not exactly true. While NC did have the numbers on both TR and VS, TR and VS pretty well commit suicide by focusing completely on Amerish where they were fighting each other and the NC was ignoring them. Once the NC had locked the rest of the world, they came to Amerish with some units scattered on each of the remaining conts. When the last TR base fell, their population fell by over 10%. They cut and ran when they'd gotten run out of Dodge. The VS and TR had fairly equal numbers to each other all night, and the VS were putting up a significantly larger fight to hold on to their bases. The TR just seemed pretty well scattered, not sure whether to try and make way into a locked NC cont or try to hold their Amerish bases as long as possible. They split their forces and felt the effect.

To say there were no TR on is just false. There were no TR on after they'd lost their bases.

Lonehunter · 2004-02-01, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by dscytherulez

look it says 666 hehehe!
anyone listen to cradle of filth?
Why does almost everything you post not relate to the original thread...AT ALL? And why aren't you banned yet?!

Can you say, ADD?

aiwest420 · 2004-02-01, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by PorkFryer

y does nc on every server out number the vanu 3/1!!!!!! vanu hav much better weapons nc's r shite

Anyways, if the TR/VS weren't dickin around on amerish for 4 (or 6? not sure) hours, we wouldnt have capped the world. Instead of continually zerging a base, maybe open your map once in a while and look at home conts?

WritheNC · 2004-02-01, 06:43 AM

I think the NC's 15 minutes of fame is up. I think we could use a few nerfs for a bit, get the pops even again.

Seriously. We do have good tactics and all, but we don't have enough.

Right now NC is like a piece of steak with all the fat on it. I just want us to become lean and cut away all the less appealing parts. To sum it up, we have too many warjunkies that don't care if a gen gets blown, our modules are getting jacked, or a base needs an ANT.

NC is fat and lazy and I hate it. Most of the people left on TR and VS are there because they want to win and not sell out.

Happy lil Elf · 2004-02-01, 06:35 PM

Accomplish that at 8:30 PM and I'll be cheering. Doing that at 8:30 AM isn't exactly a prize winning achievement.

I mean holy, "Take that, undefended base," Batman!

Kaymon · 2004-02-01, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by aiwest420

Anyways, if the TR/VS weren't dickin around on amerish for 4 (or 6? not sure) hours, we wouldnt have capped the world. Instead of continually zerging a base, maybe open your map once in a while and look at home conts?

Wait, you're admitting to ghost hacking empty continents while the TR and VS did some real fighting? Way to own yourself.

KIAsan · 2004-02-01, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Madcow

I was there with an NC alt (only play NC on Emerald) and that's not exactly true. While NC did have the numbers on both TR and VS, TR and VS pretty well commit suicide by focusing completely on Amerish where they were fighting each other and the NC was ignoring them. Once the NC had locked the rest of the world, they came to Amerish with some units scattered on each of the remaining conts. When the last TR base fell, their population fell by over 10%. They cut and ran when they'd gotten run out of Dodge. The VS and TR had fairly equal numbers to each other all night, and the VS were putting up a significantly larger fight to hold on to their bases. The TR just seemed pretty well scattered, not sure whether to try and make way into a locked NC cont or try to hold their Amerish bases as long as possible. They split their forces and felt the effect.

To say there were no TR on is just false. There were no TR on after they'd lost their bases.

I was also there dude. Since I live in Japan, these are my prime time hours. The reason that most TR and VS were locked on Amerish, is BECAUSE of the huge NC population imbalance. Trust me, we tried on several occasions to stem the tide, but it is ABSOLUTELY no fun fighting, when your getting a massive zerg. So, instead of "cutting and running" as you put it, we all just got fed up and stayed on Amerish to enjoy a quality battle. And what a battle that was. We were totally deadlocked, with no real advantage to either side. It was in fact, the most fun I have had in a fight in a long time. The only down side, was when the NC got bored from running over ghosted bases (yeah you had a few heavy battles, since Amerish was pop locked and the remanents of TR/VS had nowhere else to go), and invaded Amerish causing a three way. Since the NC came in our back door, we were getting hit from two sides and couldn't maintain any fight. That was when most of us logged.

My point in this is to explain to you that population imbalance is a bad thing. Once you locked the world with your superior numbers, did you have a lot of fun? Duck shooting folks out of their warp gate may be amusing for a while, but does get boring (been there and done that too). I, for one, prefer a challenge.

Also, I'm not carping about the NC "win", since the next night, TR did an equivalent thing (we had pop advantage for a few hours and locked 5 conts). It was a lot of fun for us, but sucked for the other sides. But, after the the fifth cont, NC and VS didn't put up any fight, and it got so boring, most folks logged (I guess our population wasn't as driven to see the whole map red). BTW, the NC and VS were doing the same thing we did, fighting on a pop locked battle with themselves, while we fought the remanents.

Anyway, I really think they need to adjust the population modifiers (yeah, I posted this before). I would love to have some real modifiers to make things a bit more even. I really loved that balanced battle, and would like to see it happen everyday, but as a balanced three way battle, not just the two disadvantaged populations fighting themselves.

Lonehunter · 2004-02-01, 08:46 PM

What's funny is, the NC bragged a lot when they took the world at 8 in the morning, when I haven't seen one word about the NC only owning TWO bases today in prime time hours! The TR owned 6 continents I might add. This was as always with an under popluated empire. My outfit personally defended Hossin for about an hour. Took some key towers, then got bored becouse the NC left.

Eldanesh · 2004-02-01, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Lonehunter187

What's funny is, the NC bragged a lot when they took the world at 8 in the morning, when I haven't seen one word about the NC only owning TWO bases today in prime time hours! The TR owned 6 continents I might add. This was as always with an under popluated empire. My outfit personally defended Hossin for about an hour. Took some key towers, then got bored becouse the NC left.

TR did own 6 conts, VS had their home, and everything else was poplocked all over NC home conts.

The various NC popluations alone do not make a difference in actual battles (5% difference? gimme a break, thats nothing), however when its 66% vs 33% worldwide, then there is a problem.

When one empire gets ganged up on, it happens, however when 2 empires chose to fight over 2-3 bases on one cont to the exclusion of every other one on the globe, then we can brag about how cool we are.

Kaymon · 2004-02-01, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Eldanesh

when 2 empires chose to fight over 2-3 bases on one cont to the exclusion of every other one on the globe, then we can brag about how cool we are.

Wait a second... it's happening again... NC bragging about capping empty continents while the TR and VS have a real fight.

Eldanesh · 2004-02-01, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Kaymon

Wait a second... it's happening again... NC bragging about capping empty continents while the TR and VS have a real fight.

I would much rather win than sit in a 3-4 hour long stalemate.
*falls over foaming at mouth bragging about how cool we are*

KIAsan · 2004-02-01, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Eldanesh

I would much rather win than sit in a 3-4 hour long stalemate.
*falls over foaming at mouth bragging about how cool we are*

To each his own. Like I posted earlier, I would rather have a stalemate, trying to out-manuever the other side, than steam-roll a lightly defended cont. We saw some really good trys on the VS part (the gigantic lib raid was awesome, all those bombs dropping at once made my minimap glow red). The fact that it didn't work, really took the wind out of my personal theory about lib suppression. They tried a second time, but we had our aircover just waiting for em. Oh, sorry about the earlier misinformation, I didn't realize we had 6 locks.