Saw something i NEVER thought i would see! - Page 2

jsloan31 · 2004-03-10, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Pogostickx

the lasher is still weaker IMO...NC got it easy with the jackhammer

whenever i find one i pick it up and use it cus it takes 1 shot to kill someone.

i think he means the jackhammer kills in 1 shot.

Gunslanger · 2004-03-10, 01:56 AM

the pulsar doesn't do high damage, but, its fires a at medium rate of fire and its pretty accurate. from a distance, i can take a gauss users 1 vs 1. a good cycler would kick my but, but, the cycler is awsome.

DraygoKorvan · 2004-03-10, 02:42 AM

you havent run across a good gauss user then.

Damage dropoff charts give the gauss the greater TTK values at ranges above 10 meters compared to any other MA rifle.

Dharkbayne · 2004-03-10, 02:49 AM

Suppressor has better TTK at range that Pulsar.

shaizan · 2004-03-10, 09:57 AM

I think Krinsath is correct on what will occur when the lash starting at 5m restriction is put back into place. What bothers me is I really think that the Fairweather "weapon-of-the-week" players will dust off their NC surgile newbies. When that happens, we will be back to hordes upon hordes of surgile JH monkies all over every map in the game. The population will shift radically in favor of the NC and we will be back to where we started. I wish there was a way to alter the Lasher such that it is competitive, but not ridiculous. Actually I wish that for all the HA weapons.

As for me, well I'll still be running about with a sweeper/rocklet rifle on my grunt and an AMP on my infiltrator.

flypengy · 2004-03-11, 12:15 AM

You obviously didn't play during lasher 2.0

LILNEO · 2004-03-11, 03:22 AM

if u ask me the the lasher is ok.... apart from having almost no recoil the orbs are just a bit to fast for a lasing gun and its range is just so rediculas its insane......

have any of u even looked at the map thing on the officail home site VS win evry day on evry sever and u think its a fair fight. they have been beating the TR and NC by over 60% evry day this month somthing has to be done and u cant dinie(bad spelling) it its un sporting and in my opinion any one that does should hang up thier lasher and join the TR or NC

and see how conplains then.

Kikinchikin · 2004-03-11, 08:02 AM

ditto what pengy said you must not have played earlier in the summer/september area where lasher was ub3r

Gunslanger · 2004-03-11, 09:58 AM

well...i remember that the VS were the lesser population. the NC were usually the top dawgs as far as population goes-since i have been playing anyway (about 8 months). the TR sometimes has high pop. i think alot of people empire hopping has alot to do with the vanu wins. you can't blame base caps solely on a damn infantry HA weapon. no way. now, you can blame it on numbers of soldiers. the TR numbers ahave drastically fell, and NC numbers have fallen. where have they all gone? VS, obviously.

i'm not here to argue that the lasher should or shouldn't be nerfed. i'm just saying i don't notice it being overpowered. now, if you think i should be nerfed, fine. that is cool-i won't mind. i'm used to it how it has been anyway. although, the faster reload and 5 more orbs is nice.

i dislike so many vanu lately. its sooo many vanu, its rediculous. i like being outnumbered. i get more kills and its more challenging. now, i end up constantly running between bases because there are so many of us and so few enemy (damn empire hoppers).

shaizan · 2004-03-11, 10:23 AM

I'm not sure if Flypengy was referring to me, but yes I was here for Lasher 2.0. During that time period my infiltrator saw huge gains in BR due to the Lasher Horde. I do remember lashers rolling over litterally everything (tank, man, or beast) that got in the way. My concern and point is that the 'Fairweather Players' will go back to their Jackhammer newbies. Weather it is the Vanu or the Conglomerate that is steam rolling everyone night after night is irrelevent. So long as it is just one empire all the time, the game as a whole will still suffer.

Why do I think it will be the NC? Well the Jackhammer still is the only weapon capable of dealing out so much pain at point blank range even with a triple fire mode delay. The one weakness of the necessity of point blank range is easily mitigated throught the use of surge and agile armor. As I said earlier I really wish there was a way to balance the heavy assault weapons without tliting the percieved (or realistic) balance one way or the other. That way, maybe finally the Fairweather Players will either stick it out where they are. I realize, of course that this is just a dream. I could also be wrong about all fo this, but we shall see.

Fragmatic · 2004-03-11, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by VashTheStamped

not new. whiny losers do it all the time

You're slow.

SilverLord · 2004-03-11, 11:02 AM

The only other problem I see with the lasher is that it's just an all out spam cannon. I was at Anu on forseal yesterday and I was fighting the VS and many of the VS were using their little lashers to defend the main door. It took us about 10 minutes just to get inside that door due to all the lasher spam just rolling outside the door.

I even was trying to repair myself outside the door behind the little archway and the lashes were still hitting me behind that corner of the wall. I looked up at where the lash was comming from and saw steady streams of blue lashes of death comming at me.

I don't care much about the effectiveness it has at defending doors and hallways but at least fix it so when i get close to the lasher user, I don't automatically step into a sphere of blue death.

LILNEO · 2004-03-11, 11:33 AM

i say kill the lashers speed and give it some recoil plz and herm i wonder y no VS conplain

Madcow · 2004-03-11, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by LILNEO

i say kill the lashers speed and give it some recoil plz and herm i wonder y no VS conplain

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the speed, nobody was complaining about speed before this last patch and the speed didn't change in the meantime. Recoil? If you're talking about COF bloom, that thing has a horrible COF bloom for any spammers. There are few people who I see managing the COF with delayed firing. It needs to not lash through solid objects and it needs to not lash for the first 5 meters (again). Heck, go ahead and leave the bug that gives it extra damage for direct hits (lash plus hit) for all I care. Get rid of the two bad bugs and it will be fine.

SilverLord · 2004-03-11, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Madcow

Heck, go ahead and leave the bug that gives it extra damage for direct hits (lash plus hit) for all I care. Get rid of the two bad bugs and it will be fine.

/signed