I need help. - Page 2

TheN00b · 2004-03-10, 09:28 PM

Angel, that's bullshit. Sure, if you wanna grow up, make a miniscule amount of money which will probably be just barely enough to pay for a new cardboard box every year, and die unhappy, then slacking off is the way to go. But, in the opinion of most, a college degree, from any school, is the only way to make a good living in this economy. How the hell do you propose getting into college if you never study, flunk tests, and laze around?

Neon Apocalypse · 2004-03-10, 09:28 PM

No because when i do my homework, the computer distracts me, so i pause my hw and play a game or two, and then an hour passes by and i end up not finishing my hw. Its the comps fault. I am lazy, but at the same time i want good grades and i know i should try harder, but the damn comp gets in the way.

firecrackerNC · 2004-03-10, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by TheN00b

Angel, that's bullshit. Sure, if you wanna grow up, make a miniscule amount of money which will probably be just barely enough to pay for a new cardboard box every year, and die unhappy, then slacking off is the way to go. But, in the opinion of most, a college degree, from any school, is the only way to make a good living in this economy. How the hell do you propose getting into college if you never study, flunk tests, and laze around?

You dont need college for a good job.Theres plenty of jobs that pay good and you dont need college for them.I slack off,I dont do homework,I fail and yet at my job I was the best worker there and got a bonus.Not wanting to do school work and not wanting to do good in life is totally different.Im a lazy ass in 10th grade who has failed 9th grade math twice and am retaking again,I failed 9th english,10th english and a few others but its because school is the most useless shit you will ever have to do in life.I can care less what 96x+345-26y= because I will NEVER need to know that,its what calculators are for.Schools useless and because it is kids like us aren't motivated to do good in it.Not to mention the way they teach is shit.They sit up in class and make us copy stuff that we could easily look up in our book in under a minute.I can barely get thru class anymore without falling asleep.My only thing keeping me up is I bring a 17oz propel bottle with vodka in it.Without it id be asleep within minutes of class.So in conclusion school sucks,I'm right,your wrong,thank you and have a good night kthxbye!

Angel_of_Death · 2004-03-10, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by TheN00b

Angel, that's bullshit. Sure, if you wanna grow up, make a miniscule amount of money which will probably be just barely enough to pay for a new cardboard box every year, and die unhappy, then slacking off is the way to go. But, in the opinion of most, a college degree, from any school, is the only way to make a good living in this economy. How the hell do you propose getting into college if you never study, flunk tests, and laze around?

Die unhappy? I wasn't aware to be happy we have to live by your standards. What makes you happy could bring others to laughter, or tears. I am happy, and I don't need to spend hours on my homework to make me happier.

I don't study and I do fuck around. Ever occur to you I don't need to study? I remember all the BS I learn in class, while others, after hours of studying, draw blanks on their exams. But when did I say I got bad grades? I could get better, but am fine with what I'm doing now. Colleges/universities can't mark you on your fuckin work habits.

TheN00b · 2004-03-10, 09:55 PM

http://www.justcolleges.com/finaid/i...=fin_myths.htm

EXCERPT: college graduates earn an average of $1 million more over their careers than high-school graduates.

Hmm, I guess you guys are right. After all, these figures sure don't seem to indicate that college graduates make more money than HS graduates

. Angel, you're probably right when you say I was wrong when I said that you'll 'die unhappy'. That was stupid on my part, and I accept that fact. But I hope you do believe that it is at least marginally important to make enough money for yourself to live 'well' (i.e. in nice lodgings with insurance and food), and to support your family if you have one. As such, it seems to me that being a college graduate would be important part of that.
On another topic, I disagree with you guys when you say that school is boring. If you're a complete dumbass, which I think neither of you are, then you probably won't have a very good time at school: However, you probably won't have a great time in life either. If, on the other hand, you're a smart person, and you'r ebored out of your fucking mind by the retards the faculty likes to call teachers, just take Honors classes. The thing is, the harder the work is, the more likely it is that the teachers will be interested in their subject: Bad/Bored teachers won't be able to make up cuirriculums and keep up with smart students. Therefoer, if you take Honors, the teachers will be more engaging and more exciting, and you won't have to drink alcohol to stay awake. Besides, even if you get worse grades in Honors thanyou would have normally, who gives a fuck? A B+ in an Honors class is worth just as much to a college as an A in a normal class.

Kikinchikin · 2004-03-10, 10:24 PM

ivwe been feeling the same way lately neon. FFXI and CoD has me addicted. Heck even when I'm at school i spend my study halls posting on the forums.
I'm a rationalist, so to rationalize my time on the compy, I put it like this.

Weekdays: either me or my friends all have too much work to do to hang out really (and they do), so computer is the only thing i have to keep me amused.

Weekends: I try to do at least one day of stuff with friends, one day of something with parents or a hobby (IE going to a car show or practicing gokarting) and the other day is mine to do whatever with. The past weekend I had no time for the computer, and this weekend i wont have much either. Therefore I"ll probably spend more time on it this week and maybe next week.

I know I will probably break this once something really tantalizing presents itself, but nothing has yet, so computer is my number one escape from stress.

Anyways a tip for you Neon, would be to join a club, group, get a hobby or something you really want to advance in and work at and have fun doing that. I enjoy making people laugh, so I joined a new improv comedy troupe last month. We have 2 practices a week and soon we'll be doing shows every weekend, so I will be occupied with it for a good chunk of time.

Sorry for long post, but I could so relate to your problem that I felt like I needed to share too. (Computer addicts anonymous

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edit: Just read noobs post about disliking school. I don't agree with you that you would like school if you were smart. I have a 4.17 GPA (honors weighted classes) and I detest school much of the time. My algebra teacher is my worst. She is qualified to teach for sure, but she doesn't. However, I see what you mean though. I have a class called 20th Century US History, in which we go over nearly every year of the 20th century and learn about events and such. This class I actually enjoy most of the time. I'm probably a history/english person rather than math/science. But it interests me and I enjoy learning about our culture as opposed to learning about parabolas and thermochemistry.

EineBeBoP · 2004-03-10, 10:30 PM

Reading this thread made me realise I had to do my Homework, so thanks Neon

But yeah, my advice is to get grounded from the comp on weekdays, then stay up till 4am weekends playing.
That'll help you do your work, and still have an allotment of fun per week.

Triggar · 2004-03-11, 12:28 AM

Dude I know exactly how you feel. Ever sit there, staring at the screen and think, "There's nothing else on the internet."? I have. I am, right now.

My advice to you is to not even get on the computer in the first place when you get home. Break the cycle that way - it's a lot easier to not have it at all than to tear yourself away from it. COme home from school, have a decent lunch, do your homework, and THEN get on the computer. It works like a charm for me.

Except now, when I have to go to bed. DAMN YOU NEVER-ARRIVING SPRING BREAK!

Phaelon · 2004-03-11, 07:11 AM

Quote " You dont need college for a good job.Theres plenty of jobs that pay good and you dont need college for them.I slack off,I dont do homework,I fail and yet at my job I was the best worker there and got a bonus.Not wanting to do school work and not wanting to do good in life is totally different.Im a lazy ass in 10th grade who has failed 9th grade math twice and am retaking again,I failed 9th english,10th english and a few others but its because school is the most useless shit you will ever have to do in life.I can care less what 96x+345-26y= because I will NEVER need to know that,its what calculators are for.Schools useless and because it is kids like us aren't motivated to do good in it.Not to mention the way they teach is shit.They sit up in class and make us copy stuff that we could easily look up in our book in under a minute.I can barely get thru class anymore without falling asleep.My only thing keeping me up is I bring a 17oz propel bottle with vodka in it.Without it id be asleep within minutes of class.So in conclusion school sucks,I'm right,your wrong,thank you and have a good night kthxbye!"

Whoa man you are wrong there big time. I took physics, Advanced physics, calculus 1 and 2, and advanced english classes in high school. When I got to college i was so well prepared it wasn't even funny. I use Calculus about 1 a week in my everyday life, from derivatives to anti-derivatives. I use Physics about 1 every 2 to 3 days, there nothing in the world, like sitting in the oasis in Chicago, eating a chicago style hot dog while you are driving between clients, and saying, How fast is that car going, taking 30 seconds and coming to a speed that is give or take 5 mph off with just your eyes and equations.

I use for the most part everything I learned is high school in every day real life. I work as a Network Engineer and I love it. I would not be where I am today WITHOUT a college degree.

You have to find ways to encourage yourself to get your work done, it's all a willpower thing.

321 · 2004-03-11, 09:18 AM

You could try spending less and less time on your computer like when people start to stop smoking.

OfaLoaf · 2004-03-11, 09:49 AM

The PC patch: a Three step program.

Dude, I'm at school right now and I'm on. It's very addicting. Force your parents to force you to stop.

Kikinchikin · 2004-03-11, 10:20 AM

I don't think making your parents make you stop is a good idea. Many times if you want something you can't have you end up trying even harder to get it. Just ween yourself off it gradually.

Mango · 2004-03-11, 10:37 AM

Do your homework when you get home the day you get it, even if its due a week later.
You'll have plenty of time to play games later.

Black · 2004-03-11, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Triggar

DAMN YOU NEVER-ARRIVING SPRING BREAK!

BOOOHAHHAHAHAHA

SilverLord · 2004-03-11, 12:23 PM

Ever since I got in HS i have gotten bad grades. I'm a junior in HS and my grades were horrible my sophmore and freshman year. Right now, my parents kicked me off the computer during the weekdays so I have time to study for my ACT and get my good grades.

I am also being forced to get all B's and I'm only allowed 1 C. This is keeping me motivated to do better and better in school. The only bad thing is...is that my social life is kinda fuxored on the weekdays since I can't get on AIM or TS. Once you start getting homework done and projects/assignments done when they are due...things start to get a whole lot better and you don't feel so lost anymore. I have learned that once you start on this little non-computer schedule..don't even try to change it back to what it was before because you'll lose sight of whats really important and then you'll have to start from scratch again.

Just stay focused and kick yourself off the computer or ration it so you can do whats really important. Never lose sight of that.