D&D And Harry Potter are evil, and you're all going to hell - Page 2

Manitou · 2004-04-27, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by SDM

Please don't tell me that you think Spee has a back room in his basement with a 30 foot pentagram painted on the floor and an altar to the dark overlord where he practices witchcraft and sacrifices babies.

I haven't the foggiest idea if he does or not - that isn't the point I was trying to make.

Incompetent · 2004-04-27, 01:20 PM

Wait, so what message are they trying to get across? That anyone can justify any pov to themselves and other ignorant people by taking something out of context, regardless of fact?

SDM · 2004-04-27, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Manitou

I haven't the foggiest idea if he does or not - that isn't the point I was trying to make.

I'm not good with points. Points aren't my specialty.

Manitou · 2004-04-27, 01:23 PM

Whether its taken out of context has yet to be proven.

They are simply voicing their opinion on what they feel is a Satanic influence. My point was that who is to know whether they are wrong or right? We won't know for sure until we cross that final threshold.

Incompetent · 2004-04-27, 01:28 PM

Whether its taken out of context has yet to be proven.

Um, there is nothing to prove, either it is or it isn't, and if you look at it, the vast majority of things are taken far out of context.

They are simply voicing their opinion on what they feel is a Satanic influence.

And I'm voicing my opinion that they're ignorant fools chasing shadows.

My point was that who is to know whether they are wrong or right?

Well, I for one am pretty damn sure they're wrong. Following your logic, somone could justify claiming nearly anything with a few OOC statements.

Manitou · 2004-04-27, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Incompetent

Um, there is nothing to prove, either it is or it isn't, and if you look at it, the vast majority of things are taken far out of context.

So because you say it isn't, that is the end of the debate?

And I'm voicing my opinion that they're ignorant fools chasing shadows.

Fair enough.

Well, I for one am pretty damn sure they're wrong.

Well, if they are, cool. If they aren't, things get ugly quick.

Following your logic, somone could justify claiming nearly anything with a few OOC statements.

My logic? I simply said that we can't be sure whether they are wrong or right until after we die and find the answer. People do "...justify claiming nearly anything..." every day. We simply have to decide whether we believe them or not and sort through it.

SDM · 2004-04-27, 01:40 PM

The more I think about it, the more I think Spee DOES indeed sacrifice babies.

Incompetent · 2004-04-27, 01:46 PM

So because you say it isn't, that is the end of the debate?

Yes, because there was never any debate. The incredibly stupid comic and the even dumber articles it link to base nearly there entire arguement on OOC information and what seem to me to be outright lies, both to the readers and to themselves. These are the same idiots who claim that Doom caused Columbine.

Cryptica · 2004-04-27, 01:46 PM

While I agree with manitou in that you can't tell for CERTAIN whether they're right or wrong, I side with those who believe it has no evil influence. My father taught me how to play D&D when I was 4. He was raised in an Irish Catholic household, and when he moved out and married my mother, he continued to live by those values as best he could. He still taught me D&D.

Aside from being a christian, my father is also a psychologist. In his work he has been able to prove time and time again that effective use of role-playing has helped cure people from depression, phobia's, and even extreme introversion. Scientifically, he has shown it has positive impacts.

Taking all this into consideration, I still play role-playing games. As a matter of fact, I'm currently a member of a team working to create a totally new way of role-playing to help regain lost interest in TRUE role-playing, and offer up an alternative to WotC's (Wizards of the Coast) murder of D&D. I, too, am christian.

By the way, the Pope himself said Harry Potter was ok.

P.S. My last thought, I promise. I think those Chick or whatever people are the most narrow-minded "christians" I've ever heard of.

Manitou · 2004-04-27, 01:51 PM

I played D&D for many years. I started when the first Dungeon Master Guide and Player's Guide books came out in the 70's and only stopped when I joined the AF and got sent to a different state in '85. It was a blast!

SDM · 2004-04-27, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by SDM

Apparently being a Shriner makes your children shoot themselves too.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp

They just LOOK fucking evil, don't they.

There is no debate. JUST LOOK AT THESE EVIL BASTARDS! They are practically dripping with compressed evil. Oozeing from the depths of Hell to devour your grandma.