Feels like beta again - Page 2

Lartnev · 2004-06-02, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Bugger

I want these bugs fixed.

The devs want them fixed too believe it or not.

Rbstr · 2004-06-02, 11:45 AM

The Devs need alot more credit, in a game this complex, very simple changes can lead to a whole lot of bugs, they try thier hardest, you can tell they love this game as much as some of us do. You can help by not just saying its full of bugs, but what the ugs are and waht you do before it happens.

Wraithlord · 2004-06-02, 02:56 PM

^^^

Zosky · 2004-06-02, 04:47 PM

Guys, take what Rbstr said seriously and stop omplaining unless it is a major thing. It takes sooo much work to code. I tried VB once, holy God...

Madcow · 2004-06-02, 04:54 PM

That's such a dumbfounding position to take. People forgive the devs entirely too much, and they are well aware of the wiggle room they have in people's minds. It's their job for goodness sake. The fact that you tried VB is great, but that's what they do. They code. Not on the weekends or the evenings after their real job, it's what they're paid for. They drove the game further and further down ever since the addition of CC with buggy patch after buggy patch, but there were always people to stand up for them and explain how hard programming is. Forget that. They got the initial $50 from me and a year of subscriptions, I don't pay money to defend incompetence. They finally drove me out by 'fixing' infiltrators just like they fix everything else. Half-assed.

Lartnev · 2004-06-02, 05:48 PM

I can't forget how hard programming is... especially that TCL, tis the devil

BUGGER · 2004-06-02, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rbstr

The Devs need alot more credit, in a game this complex, very simple changes can lead to a whole lot of bugs, they try thier hardest, you can tell they love this game as much as some of us do. You can help by not just saying its full of bugs, but what the ugs are and waht you do before it happens.

I'm not dumb and selfish. The thing is they let this out too early, and unlike several patches ago they didn't take it out. How could they not have seen this in testing is my question, or the max armor ring, its been a while since its been missing. Really, i'm proud that they worked this hard, just the fact that they dind't release this patch without counter fixes kinda annoyed me.

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-06-02, 11:54 PM

I'm sure programming is tough, just as any job that requires a specialized skill would be, and you are an amateur.

I'm just saying, that give the developer their due, they have a tough job from our view. But in the end they are the professionals, we have employed people who would find programming EASY & Natural. Which is why we pay them to provide a service, pay to ultilies their skills to make the game we love work and be fun.
When you put it that way, to put out a defected product in succession would of made any company or standard-monitoring body question the people creating these products.
But as a software development company there's always unique circumstances in which they specialise which makes such erros and problems impossible to rectify.
This is forgivable, but what makes it bad, is that compared to other online games, the bug fixes, the frequency of updates,balancing adjustments, and lack of bugs in the updates are less then better.
And it's those problems, that people have a right to complain about.

Lartnev · 2004-06-03, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by BUGGER

The thing is they let this out too early, and unlike several patches ago they didn't take it out.

I agree that it was pushed out the door before any real balancing had been put in place, perhaps they were praying people's first impressions were wrong. But I don't think rolling back the patch would be appropriate in this situation. The vast majority of stuff in 2.7 work well, the new AMS, the Fury, the lock on fixes etc. 2.6 was rolled back because it was causing fatal errors and extreme lag for most people and after 2 attempted hotfixes it was still a major problem.

BUGGER · 2004-06-03, 11:55 PM

ok, well its a week now and i'm still missing my ground. Now if i'm in a galaxy and i end up on a cont with no ground i'm afraid to hotdrop.

tho there is the good/cheap thing, i can take a vehicle under ground. Me thinks i should get a gal cert.

SilverLord · 2004-06-04, 10:46 AM

I'd really like to hear all the different bugs you guys have. I understand the no ground textures, but give bugs that accually effect gameplay, let's see how big the list can get if PS is so buggy.