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Old 2004-06-18, 08:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Helios? What's that?
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Old 2004-06-18, 08:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Short for Helicopters.
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Old 2004-06-18, 08:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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We got those fuckers back though.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

A U.S. official confirmed that al-Moqrin has been killed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

To establish identities, one Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on three bodies of militants killed in a shootout in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of Paul M. Johnson Jr.'s body.

The killing of Abdulaziz al-Moqrin, 31, would be a coup for the Saudi goverment, which has been under intense pressure to halt a wave of attacks against Westerners in the kingdom.

The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya satellite station, which first reported al-Moqrin's death, said two other militants were also killed in the raid, and another was wounded and arrested. All three dead militants were on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted men, security officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Two suspects escaped, he said, said one Saudi security official who took part in the raid.

Al-Moqrin, who trained with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, is believed to be the leader of the group calling itself al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for Johnson's beheading.

Al-Moqrin's group has also claimed responsibility for most attacks against Westerners in Saudi Arabia in the past two months.
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Old 2004-06-18, 08:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by Mushnator
Short for Helicopters.
Helo, Heli, Chopper, Whirley bird, whirley gig, and so ugly the ground repels it I've heard as nicknames for helicopters, but never Helios.....When I see helios, I think "Sun"

Keep in mind I grew up as the son of a Marine Helo crew chief/maintenance chief, and have been personally involved in the aviation community for the past 5 years, not counting my lifetime obsession with it.
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Old 2004-06-18, 08:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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It's a combo of Helo and Heli, I heard it somewhere before and just kept saying it sence.
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Old 2004-06-18, 08:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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We got those fuckers back though.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

A U.S. official confirmed that al-Moqrin has been killed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

To establish identities, one Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on three bodies of militants killed in a shootout in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of Paul M. Johnson Jr.'s body.

The killing of Abdulaziz al-Moqrin, 31, would be a coup for the Saudi goverment, which has been under intense pressure to halt a wave of attacks against Westerners in the kingdom.

The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya satellite station, which first reported al-Moqrin's death, said two other militants were also killed in the raid, and another was wounded and arrested. All three dead militants were on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted men, security officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Two suspects escaped, he said, said one Saudi security official who took part in the raid.

Al-Moqrin, who trained with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, is believed to be the leader of the group calling itself al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for Johnson's beheading.

Al-Moqrin's group has also claimed responsibility for most attacks against Westerners in Saudi Arabia in the past two months.
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Old 2004-06-18, 11:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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I'm surprised they didn't send the boys to find Johnson. Very sad to hear this.

Hard for me to put it in words, but I can only say, he will be a hero among all. (Hope that made sense.)

The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday
5 minutes of fame was all he got lol!! The leader will surely be remembered [/sarcasm] (Err honestly these topics about Terrorism and such, I can't really talk about)
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Old 2004-06-19, 12:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by RuskiVodka
I'm surprised they didn't send the boys to find Johnson. Very sad to hear this.

Hard for me to put it in words, but I can only say, he will be a hero among all. (Hope that made sense.)



5 minutes of fame was all he got lol!! The leader will surely be remembered [/sarcasm] (Err honestly these topics about Terrorism and such, I can't really talk about)
I very much doubt they did not send the boys to try and find Johnson in time. From what I read, they found the guy as he was trying to dispose of the body. They've not mentioned any units attached to those who found him and his cohorts, so I would venture a guess that they did indeed send a team of some sort out to find him, and we were unfortunately too late.

Edit: Just read the updated CNN article

More than 15,000 Saudi security forces, working with U.S. forces, combed areas believed to be al Qaeda hubs in recent days, searching about 2,000 locations for Johnson and his captors, Al-Jubeir said.
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Old 2004-06-19, 12:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Originally Posted by ControlledBurn
I very much doubt they did not send the boys to try and find Johnson in time. From what I read, they found the guy as he was trying to dispose of the body. They've not mentioned any units attached to those who found him and his cohorts, so I would venture a guess that they did indeed send a team of some sort out to find him, and we were unfortunately too late.
Since Media manipulates people's thoughts and knowledge of the world. We only see perspectives of what the reporters write. You are right that they have sent a team to do SAR. We don't know cause we rely on Media, but it's a routine that Units from the Military, do searches secretly. (Hope that made sense, sorry on the Vodka dosage ATM.)

EDIT: Read the article as-well
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Old 2004-06-19, 12:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Originally Posted by ControlledBurn
I've said it countless times before this one, but I'll say it again: Glass Factories are in high demand.
Indeed. The time for talk is over. Less negotiation and policy, more making the necessary people dead.
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Old 2004-06-19, 01:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Indeed. The time for talk is over. Less negotiation and policy, more making the necessary people dead.
Indeed.
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Old 2004-06-19, 01:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Originally Posted by hDrakbynea
We got those fuckers back though.

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - The leader of al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia was believed killed in a raid in the capital Friday, hours after his group claimed the beheading of an American engineer, Saudi security officials said.

A U.S. official confirmed that al-Moqrin has been killed. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information.

To establish identities, one Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on three bodies of militants killed in a shootout in a downtown neighborhood shortly after the discovery of Paul M. Johnson Jr.'s body.

The killing of Abdulaziz al-Moqrin, 31, would be a coup for the Saudi goverment, which has been under intense pressure to halt a wave of attacks against Westerners in the kingdom.

The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya satellite station, which first reported al-Moqrin's death, said two other militants were also killed in the raid, and another was wounded and arrested. All three dead militants were on Saudi Arabia's list of most wanted men, security officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Two suspects escaped, he said, said one Saudi security official who took part in the raid.

Al-Moqrin, who trained with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, is believed to be the leader of the group calling itself al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, which claimed responsibility for Johnson's beheading.

Al-Moqrin's group has also claimed responsibility for most attacks against Westerners in Saudi Arabia in the past two months.
Instead of using real bullets, they should use rubber ones so instead of killing the guy instantly he suffers horribly from the pain of getting rubber in your chest from a 12 gauge. am I a bad person?
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Old 2004-06-19, 01:22 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Instead of using real bullets, they should use rubber ones so instead of killing the guy instantly he suffers horribly from the pain of getting rubber in your chest from a 12 gauge. am I a bad person?
Then soak him in pig blood and then kill him.
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Old 2004-06-19, 01:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Then soak him in pig blood and then kill him.
I've never thought about pig's blood, but something similar is something I've always been an advocate of for these fuckers. Killing them only makes me a martyr (Not TangoUniform) however, stuffing their face full of ham, bacon, or other pork products and leaving their body where their friends can see or find it like that might dissuade some of them from continuing in their ways due to their beliefs.
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Old 2004-06-19, 01:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Someone find that article about the guy who did that.
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