This last patch is too much, time for action.

[Warborn]

Originally Posted by Kam

Ya but when I kill BFRs, I don't hit the ones that are camping structures. I go after the lone wolfs that decide to run into the middle of a forest or stand in the middle of a bridge. I do this in agile with a rocklet and three jammers, to me that is simply too easy.

You said it yourself, you go after the lone BFRs. BFRs are meant to be vulnerable alone. If you die alone in your BFR with no allies around, you were not playing very well. Gunner BFRs should be in the middle of a bunch of friendlies, soaking damage and adding their firepower to the battle. Flight variants should jump in from the sides or rear, kill some doods, and then jump out of there. If you hang around in a flight variant, you'll get jammed and killed. If you go out solo in a gunner variant, you'll get jammed and killed. This is how things work, and so as far as I'm conerned, any cries of "I die to easy" have everything to do with your skill, and nothing to do with the overall balance.

[juggalokilla]

Originally Posted by Warborn

You said it yourself, you go after the lone BFRs. BFRs are meant to be vulnerable alone. If you die alone in your BFR with no allies around, you were not playing very well. Gunner BFRs should be in the middle of a bunch of friendlies, soaking damage and adding their firepower to the battle. Flight variants should jump in from the sides or rear, kill some doods, and then jump out of there. If you hang around in a flight variant, you'll get jammed and killed. If you go out solo in a gunner variant, you'll get jammed and killed. This is how things work, and so as far as I'm conerned, any cries of "I die to easy" have everything to do with your skill, and nothing to do with the overall balance.

/agreed

[internetn]

Warborn is a god...

Anyways, I've never been pro-bfr, or anti-bfr.. but I've always said you need to change your strategy and work as team for their dustruction/success

[hazzer2007]

Also becasue you paid more does qualify the right to screw over everyone else's gameplay

no, its not like that. Its just that were was no warning about the nerf patchs. Also they kept coming. Yes, they might of been too powerful when they came out, but it was nerf after nerf after nerf. And that put me off, proboly all the pro bfr's aswell.

Seem not fair how people that never complaned about them before in the test server get to now!

I have friends and outfit members who use bfrs, a lot of them have either moved back to grunting, or simply become better. They still pull off 1 KpM and rarely die before their timers because they play smart and use them as they are ment to rather than some solo rambo roofwhoring dual AI tard who gets jammered and dies in under 15 minutes.

I agree with you there. I'm no killing hore and realy use flight bfr. The main problem with bfr's is the flight ones as there is hardly no defence aganst them. + the main thing that i hate about them is AA dont lock on. WHY??? they are a aircraft, their name says so, "FLIGHT!!!!!", so why no AA lock on???

[FatalLight]

Um, I don't know about you guys but I'm loving having more control moving around in mid air, IMO flight bfrs should still be able to fly when jammered, although not to their full potential

[Phaden]

You have to understand, Everytime this player is in PS, they are in a BFR, no if's. That is the only place you will see them. They are good, as i will admit, in them, but this game is not about making one vehicle the End all weapon, its about combined arms. If i have seen this person play enough, i know that is what they want it to return to.

Basically, if you dont like they way its goin, unsubcribe. The devs cannot cater to every single person. The OF's lit up about how bad they were and how uber powerful. Now they have responded and been brought down to this. You can not please everyone.

[GreyFlcn]

ReconDelta can't make a post that doesn't have one of these words in it.

BFR
Reaver
AirCav
Whine (Or some variation)


Recon gets no support in the OF, so he's gotta try somewhere I guess ;D

[GreyFlcn]

Here's an example

My in game names are recondelta and recondeita. Typically I run two accounts. Never lacking a "good" driver, and never lacking a spotter for my flail.

Basically before BFRs were around, he was cheating his ass of driving Tanks and Spotting for Flails solo.

Now he's sad that Dev's are hurting his ability to 'Solo Tank' with BFRs.

[Recondelta]

Wanted to state I was very angry with the DEVS nerfing FVs, then the very next day following them with another very substantial nerf to the shield regen. In my anger, I perhaps did overreact.

I do feel strongly the DEVS are approaching this entire BFR issue the wrong way and I am not necessarily a happy customer currently. I'm not at the point of going all out with a negative campaign towards Planetside, but that camel is about one straw away.

We the customers paid for Planetside and the BFR expansion, we the customers should not have a development team basically removing what we paid for a short three months later. These nerfs need to stop or at least be address in a different manner.

Just as the Internet word of mouth is a positive way to increase Planetside population, and I did my share. It can also act in an opposite way. I dont take kindly being sold a Porche and when I get the vehicle home finding out the dealer replaced my engine with one from a VW.

So for now, I'm calling the DEVS bluff.

[Warborn]

Originally Posted by Recondelta

Wanted to state I was very angry with the DEVS nerfing FVs, then the very next day following them with another very substantial nerf to the shield regen. In my anger, I perhaps did overreact.

I do feel strongly the DEVS are approaching this entire BFR issue the wrong way and I am not necessarily a happy customer currently. I'm not at the point of going all out with a negative campaign towards Planetside, but that camel is about one straw away.

We the customers paid for Planetside and the BFR expansion, we the customers should not have a development team basically removing what we paid for a short three months later. These nerfs need to stop or at least be address in a different manner.

Just as the Internet word of mouth is a positive way to increase Planetside population, and I did my share. It can also act in an opposite way. I dont take kindly being sold a Porche and when I get the vehicle home finding out the dealer replaced my engine with one from a VW.

So for now, I'm calling the DEVS bluff.

Core Combat is not "the BFR expansion". It existed long before BFRs were added to it. If you bought the expansion for the BFRs, great, but you're wrong in assuming you have some kind of guarentee. You may also be surprised to know that you also do not own your character, and that if SOE wished, they could instantly revoke your PS account permanently, and there wouldn't be a damn thing you could do about it. Clearly, you're overestimating your rights in this situation.

Furthermore, you are a player. You do not necessarily understand the nuances of game balance. The fact that you concede you were emotional about this situation makes it obvious you are not being objective. You aren't basing your opinion on what's best for the game, you're basing it on what you want. That is not how you balance a game. If Samhayne started letting his personal feelings about one vehicle or another get in the way, the game would become unbalanced in a hurry, and customers would be lost.

So stop leaping to conclusions about what you're entitled, and realize that you do not necessarily know what is best.

[Phaden]

Wow. Warborn took my words clear out of my own mouth. I was forming a response as i read, and then read warborn's. Damn you for thinking the same exact thing i was!!