RIAA sues XM - Page 2

LimpBIT · 2006-05-19, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ivan

Well, let's just say I lost it while in use...

I hardly even have a reaction to that......my first thought was

but than turned into

Hamma · 2006-05-19, 08:56 AM

Hamma · 2006-05-19, 10:32 AM

Here's a funny story about how much the RIAA "really" loses

http://donnysblog.com/one-month-of-t...-riaa-rant.php

Hamma · 2006-05-19, 02:13 PM

XM Responds

http://www.xmradio.com/lineup/statem...p?refsrc=hp_ex

Statement to XM Subscribers - The XM Nation

Everything we***8217;ve done at XM since our first minute on the air is about giving you more choices. We provide more channels and music programming than any other network. We play all the music you want to hear including the artists you want to hear but can***8217;t find on traditional FM radio. And we offer the best radios with the features you want for your cars, homes, and all places in between.

We***8217;ve developed new radios ***8212; the Inno, Helix and NeXus ***8212; that take innovation to the next level in a totally legal way. Like TiVo, these devices give you the ability to enjoy the sports, talk and music programming whenever you want. And because they are portable, you can enjoy XM wherever you want.

The music industry wants to stop your ability to choose when and where you can listen. Their lawyers have filed a meritless lawsuit to try and stop you from enjoying these radios.

They don***8217;t get it. These devices are clearly legal. Consumers have enjoyed the right to tape off the air for their personal use for decades, from reel-to-reel and the cassette to the VCR and TiVo.

Our new radios complement download services, they don***8217;t replace them. If you want a copy of a song to transfer to other players or burn onto CDs, we make it easy for you to buy them through XM + Napster.

Satellite radio subscribers like you are law-abiding music consumers; a portion of your subscriber fee pays royalties directly to artists. Instead of going after pirates who don***8217;t pay a cent, the record labels are attacking the radios used for the enjoyment of music by consumers like you. It***8217;s misguided and wrong.

We will vigorously defend these radios and your right to enjoy them in court and before Congress, and we expect to win.

Thank you for your support.

Awesome, just ownage.

Rbstr · 2006-05-19, 02:31 PM

If we want to fix this, the people of this country need to do something about it.
Right now, people just sit around and say the RIAA sucks, we need to get up and do stuff. Protests, boycotts. People need to feel like thier rights are being infringed!

It seems to me that kind of action died in the late 60's and early 70's(the three assasinations in a sence, seemed to kill it). Sence then we haven't really reformed anything. We're letting things stagnate, changes are needed but no one is steping up to do it.

If I was a charismatic and pursuasive speaker, I'd get some shit together and start the revolution! So many people are annoyed with how things are going, the right words would be all it takes.

Giovanni · 2006-05-19, 02:38 PM

Hahahaha you're actually expecting the American people to get up and do something about the whole thing? It won't happen. People are too lazy nowadays. How many people bitch about the price of gaz and don't do shit about it? (It's also much more wide-spread then the RIAA problem)

In montreal there was a planned protest for the gaz protests and how mny showed up? A few hundred. The damn thing was advertised for months and almost noboby showed up for it. Now you really think a bunch of people are gonna march and protest the RIAA? I think you're having hallucinations because half of the people who complain can't bother missing their precious shows.

Kikinchikin · 2006-05-19, 03:38 PM

I hate it, but Gio's right. America is overcome with apathy today. I long for the same political climate of the 60s and early 70s, where people actually gave a damn about the direction that the country is going in. Today everyone is so self-absorbed they don't care about anything as long as it doesn't effect them drastically.

I'd be down for some good ol protesting any day, be it the RIAA, gas prices, or something else with any merit at all. Everyone knows there are a shitload of things that need to be fixed/changed.

Rbstr · 2006-05-19, 03:42 PM

I was just talking about how no one does anything:
That we need to.
Not whether we're are doing it or not. Or even if we are capable.

You seem to acctualy agree with my main statment. Unless you misspoke(typed 0_o )

Now I go on to say that with so much discontent all it takes is a leader to get people to do shit.
I suppose you can disagree there, but your case doesn't provide good evidence to that end.
I'm saying a figure, a leader, is needed to instigate the masses into doing something, someone people like to hear speak, someone with a message on how to fix the problems that eveyone wants solved.
It seems to me your protest example lacked that essential ingrediant.

You can find a figure(s) behind most major political movements and/or reforms in this country. Alot of times, without that person(s) I think alot would have turned out much differently, if they happened at all.

Everyone says they would, but no one does, and i think that's because of the lack of such a person.

Kikinchikin · 2006-05-19, 03:46 PM

Agreed. An influential leader could start getting things accomplished, but there really aren't any issues that are so flagrantly wrong or inflammatory like there were in the 60s to get someone to really stand up and be noticed. Racial inequality is on another tier compared to gas prices. Still it's certainly possible and I hope someone takes up the call.

Rbstr · 2006-05-19, 04:07 PM

Your right that is another problem facing the reform-minded.

Class inequality and the disparity of wealth has been a calayst for change however.

Given some time though some issues, like the new Ma Bell monopoly, the demise of net nuetrality, unethical buisiness practices, increasing competition with china ect. for recorces and the unending perhaps escalating war on terror/islamists will push that variable to the critical point.

Giovanni · 2006-05-19, 04:17 PM

I seriously doubt there will be any sort of revolution what-so-ever. If (that's a very big IF) a leader were to rise from the mass he would probably be just another greedy bastard. Good people are rare to come by, nobody would want to fight for a just cause anymore since it's all about the money. Our values are not what they used to be, we don't do things for other people anymore and if we do it's in hope of gain.

Example: My girlfriend can't say no to a friend in need. A couple of weeks ago her old boss and friend asked her to fill in for one of her employee's, she had already 8 hours of work in her but she said yes. When I asked her "Why the fuck did you do that? You're going to be tired as hell!" she awnsered "Well, I'm not doing this to help her really, I'm getting paid and she's going to owe me one later on."

Thus if someone was to rise and be a leader for the masses, he would probably have a selfish goal hidden behind his good itentions. Take Hitler for example: he was considered a war hero and he fought for the poeple in a political manner, once he had enough power and support (if I remember correctly over 60% of the polls, if not more) he quickly outlawed other political parties and syndicates in order to take full power and begin his march on the world.

What's to stop a new-found savior amongst our people to have the very goal Hitler had (althought slightly different)?

Note: yes I am taking it to extremes but it's for imagery really.

Rbstr · 2006-05-19, 04:35 PM

I'm not talking "REVOLUTE!" style revolution, I'm talking New Deal style, a revolution in the countries thinking - reform essentialy.

The only way to prevent the "Hitlers" out there(I dissagree with your assesment of the motivations involved in his coming to power, and the motivations of Hitler himself, but I'll use your version of hitler as the theoretical worst case revolutionary to easy confusion) is to not let a group get turned into a scapegoat(the case of ***, *******, gays ect.) and to not let our own assumptions of national superiority cloud our moral vision to the point we are OK with invading other countries because we can make better use of the area ourselfs.

That's the danger of letting a situation become to dire. It becomes much easier for people to turn to immoral deeds to improve their situation.

Kikinchikin · 2006-05-19, 05:05 PM

If we stay on the current track that we are on right now for another 10-15 years I could see a large scale reform movement happening, but I don't forsee us continuing the way we are right now come 2008. I could be wrong of course.

Hamma · 2006-05-21, 09:10 PM

Agreed.

Money will be the destruction of this amazing country, all these fucktard Senators taking bribes and donations from all these huge ass companies. American Politics right now is all about who has the most money not the people.

Kikinchikin · 2006-05-22, 01:13 AM

Completely right. And I could get on a high horse and say how the Democrats will change everything once they get a candidate in office, but chances are good it will just be more of the same. It's going to take an honorable and effective administration to get things back in order or else the people will take it into their own hands.