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Old 2006-06-09, 06:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Originally Posted by Lonehunter187
Perfect.

Friend of mine asked me after seeing this, "So was 2500+ dead troops worth his death?"

To witch I told him, "I wish I could tell you how many lives we prevented him from taking, but we'll never know."
How many more deaths then his orignial potential could his contemporaries cuase?

Ifs like this don't get you anywhere.

You may or may not have prevented any deaths at all.

Would any of these deaths happened if we never invaded at all?
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Old 2006-06-09, 07:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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How many more deaths then his orignial potential could his contemporaries cuase?
Do you know what mob mentality is? Most men are followers. Ordinary people are occasionally influenced by people that they wouldn't normally be influenced by, when they see others involved. Either way, this question is nothing more than semantics and hypotheticals.

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Ifs like this don't get you anywhere.
Looks like it did. The figurehead for this movement kinda blew himself out of style with the way he acted. So apparently, his own guys got tired of his crap. They're the ones that turned him in. So yeah, it did get us somewhere.

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You may or may not have prevented any deaths at all.
Coulda woulda shoulda but didn't. The world doesn't deal in maybes. It deals with what is, and what isn't. The guy is dead. He led a large insurgency operation that, previous to his arrival in Iraq, did not exist on that scale. It is now leaderless. This guy PERSONALLY killed hostages (it's a fact, go look it up) - he won't be doing that again. He personally selected many of the targets that his fighters hit (also a fact, go look that up). It's not like he would have decided tomorrow to give up and quit. You're absolutely retarded if you believe he wouldn't have ever killed anyone else.

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Would any of these deaths happened if we never invaded at all?
Why don't you ask the families of countless people who disappeared under Saddam's regime? How about ask the survivors of the Iraqi government assaults? Maybe there'd be no deaths of people that died as a result of the war - or maybe they would. Saddam wasn't exactly polite and respectful of the citizens of his country.

Why don't you go hire that John Edwards psychic dude, or Sylvia Brown, and ask them to find out from the dead people? Because otherwise, you're asking rhetorical questions that you don't know the answer to. And yeah, neither do we - but having been there, I can answer them with my opinion, which is based largely in fact, research, and first-hand knowledge.
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Old 2006-06-09, 08:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Politics 4tl.
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Old 2006-06-09, 10:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Originally Posted by xmodum
Politics 4tl.
Because after all! Your live is not affected by politics right?
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Old 2006-06-09, 10:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by xmodum
Politics 4tl.
Common sense for the win. Politics has nothing to do with it.
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Old 2006-06-10, 12:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Can you feel the love?

Jesus christ.
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