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Old 2003-02-19, 10:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Sun (n.) n.

1. See Sunn.
2. The luminous orb, the light of which constitutes day, and its absence night; the central body round which the earth and planets revolve, by which they are held in their orbits, and from which they receive light and heat. Its mean distance from the earth is about 92,500,000 miles, and its diameter about 860,000.
3. Any heavenly body which forms the center of a system of orbs.
4. The direct light or warmth of the sun; sunshine.
5. That which resembles the sun, as in splendor or importance; any source of light, warmth, or animation.
6. To expose to the sun's rays; to warm or dry in the sun; as, to sun cloth; to sun grain.

I would like to direct your attention to number 3, thank you.
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Old 2003-02-19, 10:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Originally posted by SilentCacophony
Our planet has A sun, doesn't mean it's THE sun. Christianity has A God, doesn't mean he's THE god.

Lol abra, you made up that answer, and yet you get mad when I call the notion idiotic. You know you were just spewing BS, admitted to it too, so who cares? And yes I COULD just imagine there's a sun up there (or just not look up), but considering the detail put into this game, you'd think they'd address it.
According to christians he is the God.

Anyways, Dave said that there is a sun during the AGN interview I belive. However, there is not curently lens flare casusd by the sun in the game, even though it is possible to impement.
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Old 2003-02-19, 10:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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i actually think that a sun is just a star that has orbitting planets. If it isn't then there should be a name for a star like that, cause if there isn't, it's stupid. I think that our "sun" actually has a different name, but i'm not sure
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Old 2003-02-19, 10:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Main Entry: 1sun
Pronunciation: 's&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sunne, from Old English; akin to Old High German sunna sun, Latin sol -- more at SOLAR
Date: before 12th century
1 the luminous celestial body around which the earth and other planets revolve, from which they receive heat and light, and which has a mean distance from earth of 93,000,000 miles (150,000,000 kilometers), a linear diameter of 864,000 miles (1,390,000 kilometers), a mass 332,000 times greater than earth, and a mean density about one fourth that of earth b : a celestial body like the sun

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Old 2003-02-19, 10:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Hmmm, so I looked up the definition of sun, and you looked up the history of OUR sun. Sorry, but I still win.
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Old 2003-02-19, 10:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Besides, you cut yours off. What was that next definition? The B one. Unless " b : a celestial body like the sun" was all of it, which still means I'm right. A celestial body like the sun = a star surrounded by planets, thus definition number 3 in my post. Thanks for backing me up.
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Old 2003-02-19, 10:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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you're welcome, now quit being a jackass and win gracefully
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Old 2003-02-19, 11:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Lol, I thought by winning I earned the right to be a jack ass. Damn it, what's the benefits of winning an argument on a forum if I can't rub it in the other guy's face?

*tries to accept his trophy gracefully but trips over his own feet and falls off the stage into the orchestra pit*

DAMN IT!!!!
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Old 2003-02-19, 11:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Just a BTW

If you take into effect the basic rules of logic and procedures of the English language, any word can have any implied definition, so long as the word is understood by both parties involved directly in the discussion, it is a valid use of the word. Words convey ideas, and descriptions, thus they are not meant to be used as a sole definition or account of one object/idea, instead they are meant to attempt to bring a basic understanding and equal identity to those involved.

Thus the definitions has no real relevance since all those involved understood the meaning behind the discussion.

Now everyone be happy since everyone is right
This is just the old argument of definitions vs implied definitions
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Old 2003-02-19, 11:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Originally posted by MrVulcan
Thus the definitions has no real relevance since all those involved understood the meaning behind the discussion.
yeah, I know. I've written papers on this very topic. About how words actually have zero meaning whatsoever.
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Old 2003-02-20, 12:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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i was listening to the planetside chat recording and one of the questions was "will there be a glare from the sun?" and dave replied "no there isnt a glare yet but it would be pretty simple to add that effect into the game" or something like that. so yeah there is a sun in there somewhere =P
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Old 2003-02-20, 10:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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im all for the fake answer given way back at the begining of the thread... but really i dont care if theres a sun or not, just as long as i can see the guy im shootin at.
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Old 2003-02-20, 10:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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maybe the sun is invisible. It could happen
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Old 2003-02-20, 12:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally posted by SilentCacophony
Sun (n.) n.

1. See Sunn.
2. The luminous orb, the light of which constitutes day, and its absence night; the central body round which the earth and planets revolve, by which they are held in their orbits, and from which they receive light and heat. Its mean distance from the earth is about 92,500,000 miles, and its diameter about 860,000.
3. Any heavenly body which forms the center of a system of orbs.
4. The direct light or warmth of the sun; sunshine.
5. That which resembles the sun, as in splendor or importance; any source of light, warmth, or animation.
6. To expose to the sun's rays; to warm or dry in the sun; as, to sun cloth; to sun grain.

I would like to direct your attention to number 3, thank you.
Just where did you see that?

The Sun is our sun, that�s the name of the stars which we orbit. Just because people cant think as abstract to believe that some stars actually have planets like earth orbiting them, cause their just small white dots on the night sky, and they instead call every star a sun, doesn�t make it right - it makes it comprehensible to the unenlightened masses. There is only one Sun (is that spelled with a capital S on English?) and there�ll never be more, only less (as in none).
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Old 2003-02-20, 01:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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And you probably believe there only is and only will be ONE God, right? Where did I see that? Ever hear of a dictionary? I copied and pasted it from allwords.com rather than opening mine and copying out the definition.

As for words having no meaning, in that case your an ass pirate, so you can make it however you want. I meant it in the nicest way possible, lol j/k
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