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Old 2002-11-09, 05:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Its not that I am ungrateful, its just... PS has been one of those games that I have to TELL people about, where as other games... everyone knwos about em... PS should be a known about game IMHO...
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Old 2002-11-09, 09:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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cLEARLY BUT THE POINT IS STILL VALID. All these other games are advetising now shouldn't this game be doing the same? especaily since its massively multi player.
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Old 2002-11-09, 11:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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----------------Note this has already been posted in the thread "the game deserves WAYYY more recognition"--------------------

If you are wondering why there is little coverage and buzz about planetside it is due to marketing. In marketing there is something called the marketing widow, this is why you will see tons of information in the beggining and end of a development cycle [3 years].

In the beggining they can say whatever they want, because they are trying to get ideas from the users [forum goers] but once the game design is pretty much set in stone [although all games have design changes once they see what is fun] then the developers have no real "use" for interacting with the forum goers. And talking with forum goers may actually be detrinmental to they product sales [will be explained].

At this point many publishers [the big company, the guys with "suits"] will step in and intentionally gag the developers from talking with the forum goers. This is done to quiet the game down, so that it can come back out in a huge explosion.

For example remember what happend to planetside about a year ago? The game had no updates at all for about six monthes, then the day of E-3 they started releasing tons of information to get people interested.

As this game hits beta 2/3 and the publisher can guess that the release will be about 2-3 monthes off then the publisher will contact all the magainzes and start giving out information, start buying full page adds, start buying the right to put up posters in your local game stores and so on. At this point the game will have tons of press and the buzz will explode.

The publisher does not want buzz right now, because if people hear about a game for too long [ultima 9, duke nukem forever, diakia, Zelda 2] people just don't care anymore when the game actaully comes out. The marketing window dictates that you hype a product for about 2 monthes as much as you can then release, then continue to hype for another month of so then slowly taper it off once it looks like you are not going to sell enough more copies to justify the cost of advertising.
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Old 2002-11-09, 11:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Once again Stick your long winded reply is wrong if that were true then asheron's call2 would stillbe unknown but they have pages in mags everywhere,same withstar trek elite force 2 and star wars nights of the old republic. Tron 2 is advertising and it isn't due for another 7 months. so In conclusion your reply is WRONG. If what your saying is marketing then thats a really bad startegy
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Old 2002-11-09, 11:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Vechio thats a good point every game i play I always asked players if they heard about this game the same reply was given...NO =(
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Old 2002-11-09, 11:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Are you in marketing? I'm not.

But I'd be stunned to find out that different companies don't have different ideas about how things should be marketed.

Sony & Verant have obviously decided to play things close to the vest for the time being. So be it.

No amount of verbage (rhymes with garbage) in this or any other forum is going to change their minds. Venting might make you feel better. Fine. Vent away. My wife does this with me all the time. But don't expect anything to change because of it. Hope ya feel better though.

I'd say Stick100's post is pretty much dead on. Different companies/producers/whatever might move the numbers around a bit... "season to taste", but overall, It Sounds Good To Me.
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Old 2002-11-10, 02:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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did you really have to quote your WHOLE post in here star?
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Old 2002-11-10, 04:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Feel really good after that last post thanks. And of course venting doesn't change things but thats what websites are here for. And sure if the Suits at sony wanna keep the game"close to there vests" then thats there decision,but don't bring your wife into this. I Play video games and go to websites to escape peoples wives and their bitching please don't bring your cow of a wif into this website or even this post for that matter... hope you feel better...j/k..lol
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Old 2002-11-10, 05:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Plus there "officail website" sucks you can say there trying to keep a lid on things or what ever but i'm a member of "the station"and i see how they treat star wars galaxies and other such games there websites rock they have weekly updates every week and all kinds of teammembers chatting with the local members about game situations and what not. The fact of the matter is this game doesn't get the respect it deserves period.No my saying so doesn't change things but maybe someone will read this and the post and pics, then tell his freinds about the game etc....etc...etc... just a few thoughts



p.s just joking about your wife being a cow
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Old 2002-11-10, 11:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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But starwars galaxy's is ....starwars...so you have a horde of rabid starwars fans, waiting to play. The game could suck but its starwars so every starwars fan will do like they did with the last episode, pretended the bad parts aren�t there and only recognize the good parts (the lag is so bad I cant move, but I'm a wookie with a lightsaber biznitch) same goes for EQ2 (I�m a big EQ fan, and starwars fan, but I'm not gonna play SW: G, PS and EQ 1 for me)
And jamikey, it might be safe to assume that Sony (multi billion dollar corp.) and verant (multi million dollar corp., best MMO games maker) know what they are doing with making game and advertising. Also for all those whiners that have doubts I think they know from EQ, infantry and tanarus how to make nearly lag free net code, though with so many it might be harder, with the system requirements everyone will be playing on a hell of a rig, and as their other games demonstrate they know how to make net code that makes it so one guy does not slow everyone down.
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Old 2002-11-10, 12:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Look, the dev chat was a blessing. You guys havnt been following the game for that long. We have gotten the handheld weapons and all the items, nades, armor abilites, and lots of other info. You should stop whining and just wait for more info like the rest of us do.
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Old 2002-11-10, 12:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Its not that dude... you miss the point.

SW:G has mega hype because the Devs keep the peeps informed, same with CoH, I have been to thier forums,a nd chatted withthe devs, me little ole no one.... would be nice to get some more updates one, and hype for the game as well....
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Old 2002-11-10, 12:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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why do we need hype now? The game still isnt out for 4 months at the least. Also, the only things they havnt shown us are the reaver gun ship, the empire spec tanks for TR/Vanu, Max weapons. It would just be SNs/movies. I mean, Hype isnt that important right now. Already, beta has drawn alot of people.... and once open beta starts, all the sites will redo their previews, so thats hype. Just give the media death machine some time.
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Old 2002-11-10, 01:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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CoH devs talk because they're small, and trying their best to make a mark on the scene. BTW, the game looks pretty sux, because you can only be "good," and only fight on cookie-cutter quests against AI.

SWG only has hype because:
But starwars galaxy's is ....starwars...so you have a horde of rabid starwars fans, waiting to play. The game could suck but its starwars so every starwars fan will do like they did with the last episode, pretended the bad parts aren�t there and only recognize the good parts (the lag is so bad I cant move, but I'm a wookie with a lightsaber biznitch)
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Old 2002-11-10, 01:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Indeed, Star Wars = Star Wars

If they make underwear with Yoda on them it will sell (hell they probably do)

but none the less, As ive said before. There will probably be more publicity now that beta testing is so close.
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