First Person, Third Person, your opinion?

[DviddLeff]

That's true Sifer, and it gives rise to using things like TrackIR; which is the awesome sauce

[Kyonye]

First Person is all anyone needs in an FPS.

Use your damn radar to make sure people don't sneak up on you. If they do, it's your own fault.

[ANaKeR]

May as well have multiple views for everything except for infantry. It doesn't provide any particular advantage and most players prefer different views for different vehicles.

A nice view would be Birds-eye view. It could be used with infantry and wouldn't give anyone an advantage (unlike 3rd person view in PS1) because you only see your avatar and a few meters radius.

Advantages would come when you're looking for mines and ensuring no cloakers are hacking your vehicle. Also, its a view that can be used when you are dropping in a drop pod.

[EDIT: IGNORE THIS POST, I WAS HIGH WHEN I WROTE IT]

[DviddLeff]

Originally Posted by ANaKeR

Advantages would come when you're looking for mines and ensuring no cloakers are hacking your vehicle.

That affectively makes it impossible to hack a vehicle or potentially put explosives on it all but removing features from the game that have been worked on.

[Kyonye]

Anaker, you just said it doesn't provide any advantages and then listed some advantages.... The idea is to not allow people to act like they have eyes on the back of their heads. Even birds eye is 3rd person and allowing it gives the advantages.

Giving 3rd person viewing takes away from First Person Shooters. FPS should stay First Person.

[ANaKeR]

I'm currently under the influence of the festive green.. it made sense in my head

[Kumoblade]

I'm okay with Vehicle third person as long as its front and center with a majority of the vehicle behind the camera. Eg. The camera is right above the cockpit so you can at least look "down and front"

[Furret]

The problem is, there wouldn't be any good reason for third person unless it gave you a better idea of where your vehicle is relative to the trees and other vehicles etc. The 'camera' would have to be a few feet behind and a few feet above the back of the vehicle, so you could see the sides and front of the vehicle. Its pretty difficult to drive through a forest with only first person.

[Kumoblade]

Originally Posted by Furret

The problem is, there wouldn't be any good reason for third person unless it gave you a better idea of where your vehicle is relative to the trees and other vehicles etc. The 'camera' would have to be a few feet behind and a few feet above the back of the vehicle, so you could see the sides and front of the vehicle. Its pretty difficult to drive through a forest with only first person.

That and it's cool to see the vehicle you're driving blasting things apart, and taking evasive maneuvers and such.

However, I can vouche for either playstyle.

In 3rd person view, where you can at least see part of the front and sides of a vehicle, it does give you an advantage when driving through thicker terrain, and knowing exactly where your vehicles at, your boundaries, etc.. etc..

However, thats kinda what I like about 1st person view. Where you can only determine the dimensions of the vehicle by Practice practice practice and getting a feel for the vehicle, and that'll separate the boys from the men in vehicle combat.

How much more rewarding would it be to be flying through thick terrain with 2 enemies on your ass only to out maneuver them because you're just a better pilot? Perhaps even have a toggle rear view camera so you can check their status (and also watch them get wasted by their lack of skills)

[Furret]

That's definitely true.
Actually, I like that reasoning.
I'm going to side with first person + radar + rear view cam.

[Nuevo Jones]

There should be limitations set on 3rd person view. Infantry outdoors sure, inside no. Reliance on the mini-map needs to be recognized by players. Vehicle 3rd person should be available to drivers, but gunners need to turn to see, make people work for it. thats what comms are for anyway right? 2 o' clock vanny!

[Bags]

I personally really like third person. Maybe not indoors though.

[Raymac]

I spent most of the time in 1st person, and only switched to 3rd to make sure I didn't just shit my pants after some insane battle.

I never had a problem with people that would do that 3rd person wall humping stuff indoors. At the same time, it did always kind of feel like an unintended exploit. If they found a way around that "exploit", then I'd applaud it, but 3rd person should be kept in the game.

[Bags]

Originally Posted by Raymac

I never had a problem with people that would do that 3rd person wall humping stuff indoors. At the same time, it did always kind of feel like an unintended exploit. If they found a way around that "exploit", then I'd applaud it, but 3rd person should be kept in the game.

They could fog out everything in 3rd person that you couldn't see in first person. I still like only allowing 3rd person outdoor if any change is needed.

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by Bags

They could fog out everything in 3rd person that you couldn't see in first person. I still like only allowing 3rd person outdoor if any change is needed.

Thats a cool idea. I couldn't think of a way to do it, but that would work.