Leaning

[Crator]

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

I hate leans. There are already too few keys within easy reach on a keyboard, using up two more to lean would make me sad.

So, SHIFT+Left/Right arrow key won't work?

[Surge72]

Personally I'd like it if they had leaning like in Arma2. It works perfectly.

Actually, if Planetside 2 followed the whole 'stances and leaning' from Arma2, that'd be awesome.

[Erendil]

Originally Posted by Surge72

Personally I'd like it if they had leaning like in Arma2. It works perfectly.

Actually, if Planetside 2 followed the whole 'stances and leaning' from Arma2, that'd be awesome.

Can u elaborate for those of us who've never played Arma2? How did they implement leaning/stances?

[Sirisian]

Originally Posted by Erendil

Can u elaborate for those of us who've never played Arma2? How did they implement leaning/stances?

This video explains a lot of it. The game has a very complex movement system.

[CutterJohn]

Originally Posted by Crator

So, SHIFT+Left/Right arrow key won't work?

If you mean shift + A or D, that means taking away the strafe ability while crouched(or sprinting if its the sprint key).

If you mean the arrow keys.. thats all the way across the keyboard.

[Talek Krell]

I generally use C to toggle crouch, shift for sprint. I think ctrl is open though.

[Krowe]

BF:BC2 didn't need lean. I don't so why it should be added to PS2.

[Kouza]

This just allows for more camping imo.

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by Kouza

This just allows for more camping imo.

It's a hell of a step foward from third person though.

[Erendil]

Originally Posted by Krowe

BF:BC2 didn't need lean. I don't so why it should be added to PS2.

By that token, PS1 didn't need a CoF system, nor the ability to crouch, nor weapon zoom on non-scoped weapons, etc. But SOE chose to include them because it introduces more tactical elements to infantry combat. It adds variety to the fight by giving characters different options in weapon characteristics and different playstyles/tactics that can be employed in a firefight.

A lean feature, if properly implemented, will do the same thing. It gives players more tactics to choose from, more ways to attack the enemy. Plus it adds a touch of realism without being overly complex, frustrating, or difficult to use by the players.

An extreme RL comparison might be drawn between, say, kickboxing and MMA fighting. Sure you could limit the fight to just a series of jabs, hooks, and the different types of kicks. But when you add in elbows, knees, arm/leg locks, choke holds, grappling, ground and pound, etc you end up with a match that is not only more tactically challenging for the fighters, but also one that is much more varied, interesting, and exciting to participate in.

I see elements like iron sights, sprinting, and the lean feature as taking a step in a similar direction, giving players more tactical options in a firefight, which leads to more varied, more broadly-skilled, and more challenging combat.

Remember: "...Allah loves wonderous variety..." - Azeem, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves

[Crator]

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

If you mean shift + A or D, that means taking away the strafe ability while crouched(or sprinting if its the sprint key).

If you mean the arrow keys.. thats all the way across the keyboard.

Sorry, I did mean A or D. So make it Ctrl+A or D instead of Shift...

[Erendil]

In a standard WASD setup, the Q and E keys are great for lean left/right. My movement keys are shifted over 1 key to the right (so, ESDF instead of WASD), and W and R are my leans keys when playing games that have it (namely COD2). They also double as good roll keys for air combat.

[Crator]

Meh, give people the option to set it to what ever they want it to be. PS1 had so many keyboard options it was ridiculous.

[Blue]

I'd be more interested to see prone before leaning. If there are plenty of good cover objects then that's enough for me

[Zulthus]

Originally Posted by Blue

I'd be more interested to see prone before leaning. If there are plenty of good cover objects then that's enough for me

Prone....no. Abused in so many games because of dolphin diving. I guess it'd be fine if only snipers could do it and it took 3-5 seconds to get into position...