Cyrylic alphabet support enabled only on specific servers? - Page 2

Sirisian · 2011-09-25, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by NewSith

So you want to potentially silence every last newbie in this game that doesn't speak fluent english?

No offense to non-native speakers, but that would be amazing. I used to play a lot of random games where you'd be put on teams with like Brazil players a lot so it was impossible to communicate. Forcing English doesn't really solve that so much since then they'd just not talk.

However, when using English it would be cool to ban AOL speakers.

Brusi · 2011-09-25, 10:23 PM

um, how about if they provide the ability to mute non-english character sets? "I don't like it" isn't really the best reason to disable communication for a potentially large userbase... Is it?

FIREk · 2011-09-26, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Brusi

um, how about if they provide the ability to mute non-english character sets? "I don't like it" isn't really the best reason to disable communication for a potentially large userbase... Is it?

That would be even better, yes.

Aractain · 2011-09-26, 05:53 AM

I will only support this if there is a Professional Russian here to make sure this is done properly.

Baneblade · 2011-09-26, 06:35 AM

Wait a sec, Russian is the big worry for PS2 and not Chinese?

LostSoul · 2011-09-26, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

Wait a sec, Russian is the big worry for PS2 and not Chinese?

To be honest, if they get the mission design and the voice macro design in properly it would lower the language barrier that exists in the current Planetside.

With the mission system in I doubt there will be a [global] channel and more squad/outfit/custom chat channel setup and thus no " cr5s " shouting random hate over [global] in many different languages.

Grimster · 2011-09-26, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by NewSith

Just one picture and you'll get it. F2P is the crowd.

<Images removed>

Also a note about:
"cheating" - It's just the fact that Russians rarely cheat to win, but rather cheat to CHEAT (???) That's why it's easier to catch them. But I do agree though, russians do that more often for some reason.
"griefing dicks" - That one is untrue, I mean it. I've much more often seen Americans and EUs griefing rather than Russians.
that typically form their own sub-communities in games - I would read a lecture about it but in 6 words: language barrier due to bad education

OMG that comic made me laugh so hard I almost started crying.

bjorntju1 · 2011-09-26, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by NewSith

Just one picture and you'll get it. F2P is the crowd.
comic here

And that is my main reason i am not a fan of Planetside 2 being F2P. I really hope it will be a boxed copy you have to buy in retail stores.

Rbstr · 2011-09-27, 09:10 PM

"I don't want to sound racist...but..." and its variations is a sure fire way to tell someone is about to be racist.
If you have a problem with people speaking languages other than yours in an internet game you have some issues to work out.
Really, your argument only amounts to "I don't like seeing those characters in my chat window". It really is the essence of a racist/ethnist/xenophobe-type argument. Any of your perceived russian gamer traits exist in the english speaking world and limiting in game chat really has no effect on that kind of behavior because they could just use private chat, or romanize the characters and chat in the open or private chat.

Unicode support all the way baby.

As far as cheating is concerned: They're subject to all the same rules any other player is.

I do thing F2P does enable the cheating element to some extent...but it's got nothing to do with what alphabet or region the cheater is in.

Sirisian · 2011-09-27, 10:14 PM

Rbstr, no one brought race or ethnicity. Me thinks someone feels guilty.

Originally Posted by Rbstr

Unicode support all the way baby.

That would be hilarious if we had unicode character names. Can't remember the game I played a long time ago. It allowed any character name, even duplicate ones, so you were given a short ID number to communicate to specific people with.

Also we should allow this:

ZALGO҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇̊̋̌̍̎̏̐� �̒̓̔̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑͡… HE ̡̢̡̢̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠̊ ̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌̍̎… ̔̕̚̕̚ ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓ ̔̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̿̿̿… ͡COMES!!!

What the European servers do is up to them.

Traak · 2011-09-28, 09:28 AM

It is so easy.

You receive ONLY chats, of ANY kind, in only the languages you select to receive.

If Tovarisch Dyachenko wants you to see what he says, he will have to do it after sending it using English letters.

If you want to see Russian and Mandarin, you will see those. Otherwise, no.

Rbstr · 2011-09-28, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Sirisian

Rbstr, no one brought race or ethnicity. Me thinks someone feels guilty.

Read the first fucking line of the first fucking post.

Now, before someone comes here and drops the discrimination card or something, I suggest that only European players take part in this thread. Unless, of course, hordes of Russian players also dwell on American servers.

The thread's premise is to exclude specific groups' writing systems on that basis of those groups being annoying when talking in their native language or somehow more prone to aberrant behaviour than others. It's exactly an allegory to any number of other superficial discrimination schemes, racism included.

What exactly am I guilt of, besides calling it what it is?

Aside from that, you have a valid argument for exuding other alphabets: If typing is going to the the primary method of identifying objects/people and those could be named outside the bounds of some standard keyboard. A well designed game and chat system should make that a non-issue.
That was, however, not part of the argument until your post just now.
And eliminating character sets has nothing to do with the requirement of using English, specifically, to chat. As everyone knows you can write other languages in other alphabets.