The downside of F2P (lol at the web comic) - Page 2

morf · 2011-10-09, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

smedly beleives its the way of the future?

I agree.

Yar I agree too. Now I can 25 box on the EQ3 pvp server.

Unstoppable.

ThGlump · 2011-10-09, 08:14 PM

And i hope in a possible subscription only server, to keep us from all that F2P crap. There is nothing positive that F2P brings to games in regards of gameplay. Instead it brings content shops, hackers, and morons. If not subscription servers, i hope atleast for B2P.

Hamma · 2011-10-09, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Levente

sorry might be stupid question, but since when was it confirmed that ps2 will be free to play?

It will have "Free Components" and a cash shop, we don't know the specifics of how any of it is going to work though.

SKYeXile · 2011-10-09, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

It will have "Free Components" and a cash shop, we don't know the specifics of how any of it is going to work though.

oh i think we will know the end result of it though.

$O€

They should add a trading card game minigame though. $15.00 per random pack of 10, maybe you will get:

mebe some skins? $12.50 each!

perhaps some outfit colours? $20.00 to upload.

maybe pay to upload your own outfit decal...$8.0!

Bags · 2011-10-09, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

Instead it brings content shops, hackers, and morons. If not subscription servers, i hope atleast for B2P.

LoL has none of those besides morons. But every game has morons regardless.

lol@srsly thinking they'll do a subscription only server...

SKYeXile · 2011-10-09, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

LoL has none of those besides morons. But every game has morons regardless.

lol@srsly thinking they'll do a subscription only server...

hehe content shops in PS:2:

Would you like to zone to Ishunder? Please deposit 1000 station cash.

Raymac · 2011-10-09, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

lol@srsly thinking they'll do a subscription only server...

Actually, that's not outside the realm of possibility. Even though it wasn't originally planned to be split, EQ2 technically has subscription-only servers. Also, T-Ray did mention off-hand a desire to have different servers with different sets of rules. I forget what it was in relation to, maybe friendly fire or something.

It is kind of hard to imagine now since PS1 only has 1 server, but if PS2 is as successful as it could be, then it could very likely have enough servers to support things like this.

Bags · 2011-10-09, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

Actually, that's not outside the realm of possibility. Even though it wasn't originally planned to be split, EQ2 technically has subscription-only servers. Also, T-Ray did mention off-hand a desire to have different servers with different sets of rules. I forget what it was in relation to, maybe friendly fire or something.

It is kind of hard to imagine now since PS1 only has 1 server, but if PS2 is as successful as it could be, then it could very likely have enough servers to support things like this.

Rule #1 of F2P is to never segment your player base. If your freebies and payers don't interact then your payers have less people to play with and your freebies won't see your cool shit and want to buy it. Then there's the fact that PS2's draw is going to be huge fights and teamwork.

Sifer2 · 2011-10-09, 10:04 PM

In my opinion they can cut down on a lot of the annoying children and hackers that F2P brings by at least requiring a Credit/Debit card to make an account. If they don't at the least do that then I fear for the quality of the game experience no matter what else they plan to do or say.

I like the web comic though since it kind of makes fun of both sides. Since it plays out more like a fantasy of what unrealistic life the adult claims to have when he defends himself in a videogame. While the children "win" but not really cause they are still obnoxious little snots just playing an online game.

CutterJohn · 2011-10-09, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

hehe content shops in PS:2:

Would you like to zone to Ishunder? Please deposit 1000 station cash.

Would you like to zone into the game? Please deposit $15 a month.

How is it in any way different?

SKYeXile · 2011-10-09, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

Would you like to zone into the game? Please deposit $15 a month.

How is it in any way different?

when you dont take my post out of context its very different.

PS1 opperates on pay to play where you pay $15 a month to access all content, when the time paid for is up you can nolonger access the content.

buying content or quests in a F2P game for station cash would be a once off fee...

CutterJohn · 2011-10-09, 11:59 PM

Right. PS1 has a cash shop that sells you 30 day access to all items and zones in the game for $15.

Bags · 2011-10-10, 12:14 AM

It really sucked being a F2P player in ps1.

SKYeXile · 2011-10-10, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by Bags

It really sucked being a F2P player in ps1.

We best get on the horn and tell everybody they can play for free...once they unlock the zones and weapons...for 1 month only...after they pay.

Xyntech · 2011-10-10, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

There is nothing positive that F2P brings to games in regards of gameplay.

It brings more players, especially in a genre like FPS games where the target audience isn't used to paying a subscription fee.

I kind of hope that Planetside 2 just goes with a box price solution. FPS players are used to dropping some money to purchase the game, then being able to play it's multiplayer for free.

a PS2 F2P model with a one time box price would be able to easily match this, while diminishing the abundance of hackers.

Keep the box price on the lower side of average if you don't want it to discourage prospective players, maybe $30 or $40? Make it available on steam too. Do some steam sales with the game available for half price. Good advertising and you can bring in some extra players who were on the fence about it.