Before you all blowout this forum.. - Page 2

Cosmical · 2012-02-24, 09:01 PM

I agree, but there's nothing wrong with a bit of speculation. It's no different than us all huddled round trying guess what's going to happen on a popular TV show, its excitement, curiosity and concern that it wont live up to out expectations.

Infact I would say we have more right to go off on tangents, because the developers actively look here. And they’re not idiots who will look at a flame post from one person and go crying home to mommy, they’re professionals who will get criticism and react accordingly. But generally its just really rewarding to listen to and hear the developers have decent feedback with community.

My only complaint is people insulting art asset designs. Saying things like "That’s fucking ugly, what are they thinking". I can’t help but think if the artist was sat in front of you, you wouldn’t be quite so vocal with your harsh criticism? Think of the hard working person who is putting their work out there, only to have you react with a pointless offensive comment about something they worked hard on for hours, if not days.

Personally I don’t care how the game looks; I come from a generation of sprites pixels and bleeps. I care how it plays and if this game can deliver the war stories and versatility the first game did, I’m optimistic. But I still don’t want a Battlefield 3 clone with shields.

Vash02 · 2012-02-24, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by EVILPIG

Planetside 2 is a different game with different mechanics. Wait for Beta and feel how things interact before you panic or start whining about something you haven't played. That's the point of the Test. Things can and will evolved based on applied feedback.

No, its fun.

nomotog · 2012-02-24, 09:08 PM

I have notice you all explode about everything. Everything. It's kind of funny because I don't have any experience with PS1 and can't understand why things are blowing up most of the time.

ThGlump · 2012-02-24, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by nomotog

I have notice you all explode about everything. Everything. It's kind of funny because I don't have any experience with PS1 and can't understand why things are blowing up most of the time.

Its because ps1 was unique (but now old and barren). We want new shiny game, but with that same feel and uniqueness. So there is very strong resistance (its like reflex now) to any weird change that (in our eyes) endangers it.

nomotog · 2012-02-24, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

Its because ps1 was unique (but now old and barren). We want new shiny game, but with that same feel and uniqueness. So there is very strong resistance (its like reflex now) to any weird change that (in our eyes) endangers it.

Ya I understand where the dissonance comes from. It's just funny (ha ha funny) to see it in action. Like when they announced the changes to vehicles. I thought OK that's normal about how most vehicles work. Then I get to the forums and find out that it's an act akin to murder.

MooK · 2012-02-24, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by nomotog

Ya I understand where the dissonance comes from. It's just funny (ha ha funny) to see it in action. Like when they announced the changes to vehicles. I thought OK that's normal about how most vehicles work. Then I get to the forums and find out that it's an act akin to murder.

Pretty much.

When you play (for me at least,) one of the best games in your lifetime, and you're given the opportunity to play a sequel of that, you kind of expect it to live up to the history (and deviation from that ends up being viewed as tragic.)

Graywolves · 2012-02-24, 10:39 PM

It's important to discuss things but we need to be aware that anything could potentially happen. No one needs to get angry or frustrated (attacking individuals is definatly not needed).

We're all basically just speculating.

Scrima · 2012-02-24, 10:46 PM

So psyched for PS2... I would enjoy a PS1.5 with just remodeled skins and such but there have been so many advances in FPS games since 2003 that PS2 will be so much better and more fun than PS1.5 could ever be.

Timey · 2012-02-24, 10:51 PM

beta these days pretty much is the game you are playing -10%. That's what they out there expect it to be, at least.. Beta sucks, game sucks.

SUBARU · 2012-02-25, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by MooK

This.

The reason why there are so many diehard fans for PlanetSide 1, was because it was so unique and interesting to play. The only downside was the lack of direction, content and support in the long run. Sure, now-a-days many would gawk at even playing a game with such dated graphics--but when it comes to gameplay mechanic, modifying it into a modern shooter is just not going to appeal because it ends up killing the reason why we loved the first one. Why would I play PlanetSide 2, if it were designed to be drastically different than PlanetSide 1? Why not call it something else?

I'm not against adding in a lot of cool features. I like new weapons, customization, vehicles, etc. I like cooler bases, better technology and everything that comes with that. However, I think it prudent that if PlanetSide 2 is to come to fruition, the primary goal for launch to be modeling itself after the first--to really pull all of that unique gameplay into this decade.

Edit: I don't like squad spawn. Rawr!

+1

Shogun · 2012-02-25, 02:50 PM

in most other games nowadays beta equals full game mostly.
but planetside beta is as unique as the game. most balancing has to be done in beta, and the devs already stated that they want to work on everything that seems to be broken during beta.

but this doesn´t mean we should stop all discussions about things we imagine to be bad. i am sure that our discussions (and even the whining as long as it has something constructive) plant a lot of ideas into devbrains that they might never have had on their own. this forum is a massive brainpool! there is a lot of stupidity and whining included, but the huge load of great ideas and views makes up for this. and the devs are able to filter out the important stuff.

EVILPIG · 2012-03-08, 02:06 PM

I just wanted to bring this up again since we have seen a firestorm of panic over some things that were seen at GDC. Keep in mind that this is no where near a finished product and many things will change. What we saw at GDC was just somethings to show off what is being worked on. The GDC demo was mostly about the scale of the engine. Things like killcam and respawn rates were completely inaccurate for demo purposes only.

Beta will be the real place for feedback (or panic).

Death2All · 2012-03-08, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by EVILPIG

I just wanted to bring this up again since we have seen a firestorm of panic over some things that were seen at GDC. Keep in mind that this is no where near a finished product and many things will change. What we saw at GDC was just somethings to show off what is being worked on. The GDC demo was mostly about the scale of the engine. Things like killcam and respawn rates were completely inaccurate for demo purposes only.

Beta will be the real place for feedback (or panic).

I think our bitching is perfectly fine actually.

Our constant crying and whining over killcams got them removed, or at least altered. If we just blindy liked everything the devs were dishing out we could end up with a very, very bad version of PS2. It's perfectly fine to let our thoughts and opinions on subjects be known, before it's too late for them to change them as they could wind up to be integral parts of the game's structure.

I will continue to bitch and whine over everything to no avail

ringring · 2012-03-08, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by nomotog

I have notice you all explode about everything. Everything. It's kind of funny because I don't have any experience with PS1 and can't understand why things are blowing up most of the time.

"You all explode about everything"?

No, not everyone about everything. A bit of an exageration surely.

There is only a couple of things I don't like the thought of. Some more that I wonder how it will work out in game and a great deal more that I think are great.

But it also works the other way round too.

"I have noticed that you all collapse into rhapsodies of omg that's wonderful" whenever a new feature is revealed.

There should be balance surely .. not everything is good and not everything is bad.

If we're here for anything it is to give to the DEVS our best opinion and let them take it from there. Although too much drama is tiring.

Raymac · 2012-03-08, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by DeeTwoEh

I think our bitching is perfectly fine actually.

Our constant crying and whining over killcams got them removed, or at least altered. If we just blindy liked everything the devs were dishing out we could end up with a very, very bad version of PS2. It's perfectly fine to let our thoughts and opinions on subjects be known, before it's too late for them to change them as they could wind up to be integral parts of the game's structure.

I will continue to bitch and whine over everything to no avail

Yeah, but you know there is a difference between constructive criticism and the sky is falling panic we see on these forums all too frequently.