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View Poll Results: Which of the following is most likely to be nerfed after game launch?
Sniper Rifles 8 28.57%
Stealth Suits 8 28.57%
Guided Missles 12 42.86%
Heavy Armor 0 0%
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Old 2002-11-14, 04:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Well sniping has never been a problem for me except for the dudes in T2 who got a head shot on you while you're flying in your shrike, that pissed me off.

I would agree with heavy armor being more or less invulnerable to snipers. Not totally invicible or people would take max armor a lot but 3-4 head shots for a kill, something like that.
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Old 2002-11-14, 06:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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So long as there are no "one shot, one kill" weapons I'll be happy. Any time someone can sit out of harms way, and be a Nancy Boy sniper killing people in one shot you have balence issues if you ask me.

Single kill weapons ruin the game.
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Old 2002-11-14, 06:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Well we'll have to see when the game is finally in our hands but i would expect/hope/demand that a headshot is both quite difficult on moving targets and lethal on lower armored folks. That's the point of sniping, killing the enemy before he can see/kill you.
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Old 2002-11-14, 06:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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I'm hoping you're limiting your "anit-1-shot-kill" stance to man-portable weapons.

And I still think you're wrong.

If I dump all three barrels of the NC's Jackhammer into someone's face, THEY'D BETTER DIE. Unless they're wearing a MAX, and even then I'd be a little disappointed. NC's MAX with the force field? Sure. They get to live.

And don't even get me started on the effects of a 150mm cannon on the human frame. It's just too disgusting to contemplate.

So yes, I think there should be 1-shot kills, and from a variety of sources. Like the Devistator, the common pool disposable missile launcher. If a human being is unfortuate enough to be struck ANYWHERE, they're in deep trouble. Anything less than a MAX shouldn't survive. And I'm not so sure on the MAX either. (Sound familiar?) Ditto for the Phoenix.

Point blank mines won't be pretty either. Or the Lasher. Or getting hosed down with the Mini-Chaingun (or even the Cycler). And if some Sneaky Bastard manages to dump an AMP's clip into the back of my head, I'd better be pushin up the daisies. Just about any MAX weapon should turn a non-MAX into goo. An anchored TR MAX should be able to sweep a room of lesser beings without too much trouble... mown down like so much wheat.

There's LOTS of high-power weapons, on all sides. You'll need serious armor to live through more than a couple serious hits from any of the bigger guns.


But don't forget that a medic can revive THE DEAD. Engineers can repair your armor. Getting killed doesn't necessarily mean a trip to the spawning tube. Every infantry squad had better have at least one medic... and the more the merrier, even if it's not your primary skill.
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Old 2002-11-14, 07:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally posted by Unregistered
So long as there are no "one shot, one kill" weapons I'll be happy.
Ditto
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Old 2002-11-14, 07:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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I don't know, I think sniper rifles should get "one shot kills" with head shots of most and even chest shots on lightly armored individuals.

Yeah, the rifle bolts should just bounce off of the MAXs... or at least do minimal damage per hit.
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Old 2002-11-14, 09:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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The way i see it :

Headshot should be hard to get and lethal on most armors. Should do less damage on a MAX but not too little, MAXs already seem to be very powerful so it could easily become unbalanced. (I.E. Everybody in a MAX, no small armors.)

As for other weapons being one hit kills well that all depends. Unloading all 3 rounds of your jackhammer into me at close range sure ok no problem but if you miss a bit or aren't very close it shouldn't be a one shot deal, again it would make it too powerful.
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Old 2002-11-14, 10:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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in tfc spys were incrediable in pubs if u knew how to use them, as far as leugue thought they werent touched much even in 9v9
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Old 2002-11-15, 01:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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MrViccio I understand you have a distrust of Sony/Verant.. but your negative attitude toward this game, which isn't even in beta yet and none of us have played, is starting to get old.


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Old 2002-11-15, 06:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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CrazyMike,

I have the UTMOST deire to play this game. It's the one game I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY want to play. Its not a negative attitdue that promted this post, rather, I wanted to see what weapon the forum hounds thought was MOST likely to be the "killer" weapon. And, if MMO's history, from AO to DAOC to EQ are ANY indication of how these are delt wiht, the NERF bat hits that spell/weapn/class/Armor/Ability/Race. It had ZERO to do with Verant and EVERYTHING to do with PLAYER PERCEPTION!

Please, do yourself a favor, realize I am an optimistic SKEPTIC.

There are two reasons for this, one my parents, my father flew the F-4E Phantom II. Fighter pilots are notorious for praying for the best, planning for the worst case scenario. This rubbed off on me. Second reason is, I too am in the Armed Forces, and as such, I take that attitude. Pray for the best, plan for the worst.
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Old 2002-11-15, 07:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Originally posted by MrVicchio
realize I am an optimistic SKEPTIC.
W00t! I as well.
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Old 2002-11-15, 03:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Blah blah blah.. when you use the word nerf you should expect some people to take offence. Anyone who's been around to know what nerf means also knows that it's not a term of endearment. I'm glad you're positiive. Your posts are telling us otherwise though since in the short time you've been posting here you've already been complaining and then now you start a thread where the tone is obviously hostile towards Son'y/Verant.

I'm not saying you're some major league h8er.. I'm just saying that you're obvious distrust is getting tiresome. Others no doubt will disagree, but thats the wonderous thing about forums.. we all get to post what we think, which is what I tend to do.


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Old 2002-11-15, 03:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Yes but if I had used another term, people would have maybe not understood. Nerf is a common used word.

As Is Carebear.

Both are looked down on, but EVERYONE knows thier meaning.

BTW this IMHO had nothing bad about verant/SOE. Also, only in ONE post have I expressed my distrust. I thought the others were nuetral/postive so please, try to hold back the flame bat before slamming me with your h4xxor1ng :P
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Old 2002-11-15, 04:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Old 2002-11-15, 05:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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*Sits beside Hamma and watches as well*

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