New Killcam Info via Higby - Page 2

waldizzo · 2012-03-08, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Alduron

The PS2 devs are the best listeners I've ever encountered. I don't know of another game that has as much dev interaction as they do with us.

Agreed. The amount of interaction between the development team and us is amazing. It is very much appreciated.

Death2All · 2012-03-08, 02:03 PM

Thank you so much Higby and all the PS2 devs.

It would've been an abomination if a killcam was in the game. Especially the one implemented at GDC. I actually yelled "yuck" when I first saw it.

As everyone else has said, thanks a ton of listening. It's really a breathe of fresh air considering how much devs keep to themselves and shit a product out whether or not the community is in favor of the features added or not. You guys rock!

Vancha · 2012-03-08, 02:06 PM

I still prefer my implementation...

No, but this is awesome. Thank you.

Duddy · 2012-03-08, 02:08 PM

I don't mind it, just not in the form they have it there.

If it was just an "informational" kill cam, i.e. no locational cues just their character model against a shaded background with information about the killer, then I think it'd be a great addition.

Quoting myself from the other thread.

Seeing as what Higby seems to be describing is exactly what I would prefer... I approve!

Alduron · 2012-03-08, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by TotoDestroy

I'm glad they're listening, but I hope this doesn't turn into a game where they're too passionate,and every time they hear a good idea they have to implement it and thus drag out development time.

I don't see that happening. This was something that 99% of people disliked, and something they were thinking about removing anyway. There are going to be certain features that the community will have a lot of input on, and others that we will have no say in.

UnknownDT · 2012-03-08, 02:09 PM

Great news. You're a pro PS2 Dev team.

Angry Beaver · 2012-03-08, 02:12 PM

You've gotta have a player feedback loop that explains and details your death, if it's not the player gets frustrated at the lack of 'justification' for their deaths rises and with rising frustration you loose players. ( a golden rule is to make every death feel like the players fault not the game being shitty)

I can understand some problems with perfectly revealing someone's location, but a general implication of the direction is a must otherwise the information about death is incomplete and you end up building that frustration again.

duomaxwl · 2012-03-08, 02:13 PM

Woot!

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Graywolves · 2012-03-08, 02:13 PM

Rather see the area of my corpse.

Bags · 2012-03-08, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Angry Beaver

You've gotta have a player feedback loop that explains and details your death, if it's not there players frustration at the 'justification' of their deaths rises and with rising frustration you loose players.

I can understand some problems with perfectly revealing someone's location, but a general implication of the direction is a must otherwise the information about death is incomplete and you end up building that frustration again.

I've never heard anyone complain about "Not know who killed them" in planetside 1

Angry Beaver · 2012-03-08, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I've never heard anyone complain about "Not know who killed them" in planetside 1

That's because the game's pace is slow enough for you to see it coming. With a faster paced game that problem increases.

Xaine · 2012-03-08, 02:19 PM

Sounds great.

As long as it doesn't give away position or give any intel etc, thats fine.

Thank you for listening.

ThGlump · 2012-03-08, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Angry Beaver

That's because the game's pace is slow enough for you to see it coming. With a faster paced game that problem increases.

So to counter bad game mechanic you need to to introduce even worse one? If its hard to tell how you died due fast pace of game, make it slower (like anyone like to be instakilled)

Raymac · 2012-03-08, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I've never heard anyone complain about "Not know who killed them" in planetside 1

Are you kidding me, Bags? You expect me to believe you never had a "WTF just killed me?" moment in PS1? It would happen to me every single time I played. The sheer scale and chaos means that there are many times where you get blindsided or sometimes just get plain old unlucky. Even with the kill spam and deathcam, I would still be left wondering.

It's nice to have an answer to "WTF just happened?"

Bags · 2012-03-08, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

Are you kidding me, Bags? You expect me to believe you never had a "WTF just killed me?" moment in PS1? It would happen to me every single time I played. The sheer scale and chaos means that there are many times where you get blindsided or sometimes just get plain old unlucky. Even with the kill spam and deathcam, I would still be left wondering.

It's nice to have an answer to "WTF just happened?"

No because it's obvious.

Tank shells are distinct, sniper sounds distinct, flail... etc I have never not known what killed me.

Oh well, unfortunately for you no video kill cam.