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Old 2012-03-19, 08:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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I've met a bunch of people over the years that when I recently started talking about PS2 to them all these, "One time when I was playing Planetside..." stories started coming out of the woodwork. It was totally unexpected for me to run into so many people that had heard or even played PS1.

They didn't talk about how such and such tank was better, or this gun was cooler. No, it was all about how Jim-bob almost took to the generate room by himself versus 10 other dudes by tricking them into splitting up to find him until they had him backed into a corner between two groups fireing on him when his buddies finally arrived by Galaxy Drop into the courtyard behind one of the groups.

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Old 2012-03-19, 09:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Re: The excitement for Planetside 2 is killing me.


Out of curiosity, do those of you bemoaning the lack of good games recently play indie titles at all? Magicka? Bastion? Trine 2? Limbo? Rock of Ages? Orcs Must Die? Renegade Ops?
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Old 2012-03-19, 09:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Originally Posted by Vancha View Post
Out of curiosity, do those of you bemoaning the lack of good games recently play indie titles at all? Magicka? Bastion? Trine 2? Limbo? Rock of Ages? Orcs Must Die? Renegade Ops?
Different Niche market.

Edit as an effort to preserve the topic. (How do I colapse the text like in Spoiler tags?)


Also yes.. some of them.
Magicka was fun and hilarious, but I couldn't take it seriously if I was paid to.

Bastion wasn't great, it was good. Bastion was what games of it's type should have always been, but because the rest of the niche that Bastion filled was such terrible crap Bastion is just that much more revered.

Trine 1, again great work, great art, but really it's only great instead of good because the rest of the industry has been deteriorating.

Limbo was depressing as hell. It took me 2 hours and my brother to point out the ending. Screw you. Also a good game just for making me feel so strongly about the characters in such a ridiculous short time with almost no text at all. Would have been awesome level of gaming even if the rest of the market wasn't such crap.

Havn't played Rock of the Ages, heard a lot of people recommending it tho.

Orcs Must Die! Is a time sink. A perfect example of the gaming industry being shit, imo. Good, I liked it. I beat it. I even reinstalled it once to play for a little while, but really didn't last long on my computer.

Havn't played Regenade Ops, I heard about it a lot, but I never bothered to get it myself. Dunno why really, just lazy I guess.

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Old 2012-03-19, 09:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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The problem with those indie games is that they are completely wrong genre for me. That said, I've played many of them and for what they are, they are pretty damn cool.

That said, I do also think a lot of people need to take off your nostalgy glasses. Go play those games now, you might realize that hey, compared to a modern game this isnt as fun as I remembered.

Times have changed radically since those times, as have the players. I can admit that when I was 15 years younger and when the technology was what it was, a lot of games were super fun and super good and I might perhaps not get the same feeling with games nowadays. But I realize it probably isn't only the games, it's me getting old as well.

That said, I do agree that sadly the industry is going towards questionable trends. F2P is both a gift and a curse, overall many game dev companies feel much more money centric than before. But that also goes with the change of time and culture. Sadly, the "DLC on launch day" is today. 15 years ago there pretty much were no DLCs, depending the game there mightve been an expansion few years later if even that.

Also, sadly many of the "cool" companies have been eaten by the big corporate names, the truely unique and refreshing titles are often the indie games, who have no corporate lead breathing down their neck.
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Old 2012-03-19, 09:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by Vancha View Post
Out of curiosity, do those of you bemoaning the lack of good games recently play indie titles at all? Magicka? Bastion? Trine 2? Limbo? Rock of Ages? Orcs Must Die? Renegade Ops?
Seen them all and still no interest. Ive played most games from PGR2/3 to COD to Limbo to Geometry Wars 1/2, Halo (all), and hundreds more. I think with me its the taking part in something big that makes me want to play a game. And even SC2 doesn't do that any more, ok it would if I was a pro (or would it? ), even then its a 1v1. While PS1/2 just gives me something else, a totally different experience. Team work and none stop fun. It also is not a twitch game. Where the next 13 year old can come and wipe the floor with me. We can use tactics that only a good brain can come up with. Ok yea if you cleaver kid has the twitch and good tactics then he will wipe the floor with us all lol!

I don't hate other games, I have just played so many I have grown tired of the same old shit day in day out. I cant even play a racing game anymore or an FPS (small map). Portal 2 almost made me puke. Yea it was the amazing story line that kept me involved from start to end and the CoOp, but after 1 round of the game I felt it was money "almost" wasted. That is another thing. Like Skyrim, I can wait to play this. but I will play it in a few months when they have some good mods out for it. And I will experience the game in a completely different way to the folks that play it now. (The SuperMorto XXX version XD ) If I see another 18 rated game that has no 18 rated content I'm going to call the police as that has become a joke. I just don't feel challenged by game any more. And I suppose the only challenge really left is other people playing the games I like or a fucking very very very good storyline.

You know what I think I'm just getting old. But saying that there are many new kinds involved in Planetside 1/2, including some of my good friends in this community. And they are bringing the same desires for a game to the table. They look for teamwork and a constant open world of never ending pew pew pew fun!! So maybe age has nothing to do with it. I'm not sure what it is. But I'm so glad PS1/2 are here as I don't think I would be playing games atm if they where not.

Geez canny wall of text there ^^^ lol.
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Old 2012-03-19, 10:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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A lot of those older games wouldn't be fun now because 1), we already played the crap out of them. 2) we're also older and more experienced (read as jaded). 3) the games had heavy limitations from the level of technology of the day that just are not present today. In fact for #3 the technology has gone so far beyond those previous limitations that some of the really good games of yore are too old to run on modern systems.

I was turned to Dungeon Keeper 2 only a few years ago and I absolutely loved it. I had to run an emulated version of windows on my Windows based computer to do it as well as tons of other fixes but I loved it none the less.

Why then did the company that bought the IP rights for Dungeon Keeper gut it so much and so terribly? Whatever their reasoning I can guarantee it's because they didn't give a shit about the IP or the consumer.


Something that for certain is not the case with Higby, T-Ray and a whole lot of the other devs working on PS2. I love how much they love their own game and the attention they pay it to make it into the best they can get away with making it.

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Old 2012-03-19, 11:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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I'm going to echo the sentiments of a lot in here, Mass Effect 3? SWTOR? Naa, i've been sitting around reading these forums and learning Objective-C/JSON (I'm a pro C++ developer) so i can make a kick ass iPhone app when i get my hands on the stat feeds.
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Old 2012-03-19, 11:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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One other thing, PS has allways had a great community spirit... Lets try to make sure that this doesnt get lost when this game explodes like it surely will, just take a look at the SWTOR forums now. Absolutely full of trolls trying to tear the game apart with poorly worded dribble about why they dont like the game, lets not let that happen to PS2.
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Old 2012-03-19, 11:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Stuff like that would just get laughed off the forums.
I mean Hamma would be laughing the whole time as he deleted all their accounts.
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Old 2012-03-19, 11:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Originally Posted by Kran De Loy View Post
Stuff like that would just get laughed off the forums.
I mean Hamma would be laughing the whole time as he deleted all their accounts.
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Old 2012-03-19, 11:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Originally Posted by Kran De Loy View Post
Stuff like that would just get laughed off the forums.
I mean Hamma would be laughing the whole time as he deleted all their accounts.
I was mostly talking about the official forums when they go up.
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Old 2012-03-19, 11:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Oh, nobody will go there anyways, cool kids stay here where the trolls are repelled
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Old 2012-03-19, 08:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Good thread, and I'm the same way. I've told everyone that will listen about PS2, gamer or not. This is the only game I've ever followed before beta opened.

I hope that when its finally begun our unrealistic hopes of it being "just what we remembered, but pretty and populated" can be tempered to enjoy what PS2 will be.
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Old 2012-03-20, 07:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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waiting sucks!
i don´t play any other games any more as well.

i log into star trek online every few days, but i don´t even do much in there. i promote planetside 2 in the chats most of the time
yesterday i logged in and there was a ps2 discussion already going on without me!
the discussion about games getting old because every new game is just a carbon copy of some other mainstream game is going on every day in sto!
especially when it comes to mmo games.
and since most players out there never played ps1, ps2 will be something totally new for them!

but it´s really time for beta, i already blew my fuses and my brain is melting. cannot stand this level of hype much longer.
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Old 2012-03-20, 04:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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The problem in the past few years is console gaming.

Before you revolt and rise as one and slay me, hear me out.

Game developers have appealed to the lowest common denominator, and I can't blame them. The ultimate goal as you know of any gaming company is to make money. The bottom line is everything.

They don't do this shit for free ya know.

That being said, Planetside always was geared towards the PC gamer in the first place. Massive battles, epic teamwork...something console gaming can't even touch.

So really, Planetside is for the serious gamer. Someone that is willing to put time and effort into his/her gameplay.

I for one welcome our SOE overlords, and can't wait until console gamers evolve up to our level and play with us.
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