new tank looks - Page 2

Marinealver · 2012-04-10, 07:05 AM

Looks fine for solo vehicles. I do hope they ditch the 1 man driver/gunner tank and make them 2/3 player with a seperate driver and gunner. But SOE tends to tell players to shut up and this is the game they made. So I expect nothing less of them.

Knocky · 2012-04-10, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Redshift

The problem i see with the Prowler is the moment created by firing a weapon bolted on the side would stress the turret or make it turn due to recoil, surely any serious design would put the guns on the top to increase it's accuracy

In realityside sure, but this is a video game after all.

Originally Posted by Marinealver

Looks fine for solo vehicles. I do hope they ditch the 1 man driver/gunner tank and make them 2/3 player with a seperate driver and gunner. But SOE tends to tell players to shut up and this is the game they made. So I expect nothing less of them.

They already said it will stay the way it is at launch. Hibgy did add however that they are looking into adding a sidegrade to make dedicated drivers with some sort of gunner bonus. And yeah...it is their game but the Devs do listen to us. Devs are not SOE.

Pollo Jack · 2012-04-10, 11:43 AM

Good god the Prowler looks bad. It was bad enough in PS that the left and right cannons didn't take the same path and would sometimes hit a target the other didn't but having them tossed to the side will be awful.

Blackwolf · 2012-04-10, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Bonius

I'd totally want to see the VS faces when they try to control a 360' turret together on a hovering vehicle with only a mouse and keyboard.

Let the DOOM-era begin!

edit; No, making the magrider a vehicle with forced gunner position is not a solution.

Actually it's easy. A and D would control turning, Q and E would control strafe. Harder control over the turning and strafe so that it didn't drift would help fine tune the control a bit, and it would balance the tank out with the other two. Most infantry controls function along the exact same lines.

Otherwise, as stated, the Magrider would have to be 100% as fast moving sideways as moving strait, which itself is both a boon and a curse. Boon because the head on profile of a mag is a lot smaller then a broadside profile of any other tank. Curse because it will still be much harder to control steering and the like. The Magrider, like a lot of VS tech, will have a much higher learning curve.

Geist · 2012-04-10, 12:26 PM

Idk, I think the prowler looks pretty cool. Maybe a bit unrealistic for the side guns, but awesome looking nonetheless. At the very least, it's a thousand times better then the PS1 Prowler...

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Pozidriv · 2012-04-10, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Geist

Idk, I think the prowler looks pretty cool. Maybe a bit unrealistic for the side guns, but awesome looking nonetheless. At the very least, it's a thousand times better then the PS1 Prowler...

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The Prowler reminds me of an armoured weapons platform rather than a tank :P. Getting light tank vibes here, not that it's a bad thing.

Small tank, fast and hard hitting!!

Blackwolf · 2012-04-10, 12:40 PM

They should have stuck with the PS1 prowler, with a lower turret so it didn't resemble a mobile tower.

Redshift · 2012-04-10, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Knocky

In realityside sure, but this is a video game after all.

I like my games to have at least a basic nod to physics when being designed.

kaffis · 2012-04-10, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Redshift

surely any serious design would put the guns on the top to increase it's accuracy

Since when has that been at the forefront of any TR weapons designer's thoughts? TR has no "serious design."

Destroyeron · 2012-04-10, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Warborn

Prowler needs a redesign in general, it looks comically bad.

Also, that magrider sig there is right. Keeping the shitty fixed hull cannon on the magrider doesn't make any sense. Change that too.

Anyway here's the thing so people can understand what the issue with the tank cannons being discussed is:

The cannons are not centralized like with the other two tanks.

HOLY CRAP THAT LOOKS TERRIBLE! Having them offset it stupid as well. I think the tank as a whole looks laughable. At least the Prowler looked freaking huge. That just looks like a shorter retarded version of the Vanguard.

Canaris · 2012-04-10, 12:58 PM

I'd love to see the Prowlers turret transformed into more of a Merkava tank style, more rounded and dual barreled of course to keep in with the TR design style

Geist · 2012-04-10, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by kaffis

Since when has that been at the forefront of any TR weapons designer's thoughts? TR has no "serious design."

Who needs serious design when you have magic nanites?

Eyeklops · 2012-04-10, 01:18 PM

I wonder if the PS2 physX engine is going to include firing recoil for tank main guns. If it is, that offset prowler gun could end up being a nightmare. In Bad Company 2 shots from the main gun move the tank small amounts on every shot. If the main gun was firing off center of the tank it would end up rotating the vehicle about 15deg over 20 shots. IMO all asymmetric vehicle design looks bad.

Mightymouser · 2012-04-10, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Bonius

The magrider (like any 360 hovercraft) can move at the exact same speed in any horizontal axis. They don't have a "reverse" or "drive", they simply thrust themselves in the direction they want to go.

I guess you drove a different Mag than everyone else got during PS1... That, or you've seen something I haven't which tells you the speed will be different than it was during the first game... Because a PS1 Mag in reverse is slower than shit...

moosepoop · 2012-04-10, 02:02 PM

i think the new prowler looks original. maybe not that sexy as the other tanks but it stands out, and im ok with that.