New gaming PC, £1000 budget, need help - Page 2

Goku · 2012-04-20, 07:00 AM

Totally depends on the design. A crappy design isn't going to be made up by copper.

Predator21 · 2012-04-20, 12:58 PM

Hey Goku,

Are you sure this PSU will be powerful enough for what Ive got?

Thanks

Goku · 2012-04-20, 01:43 PM

Easily.

Predator21 · 2012-04-20, 01:54 PM

Ah ok just thought I'd ask as someone said it might not be.

I got the Corsair h60 btw, managed to change the order in time, so all is good

Thanks

Goku · 2012-04-20, 02:56 PM

Even overclocked with a 2600K and GTX 680 the system pulls under 400W. You generally want a PSU that has a good amount of room wattage wise to not overload it. A 650W will give you plenty of expansion in the future as well. Especially if the graphics cards get power hungry again next gen or two.

Very nice. Its a unique cooler. My brother has one and its great. I'm probably going to get the H80 next time it goes on sale.

Rbstr · 2012-04-20, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Knocky

Sure it's twice as much, but doesn't copper diffuse more heat then aluminum?

Copper conducts heat better than aluminium, which you could consider a form of diffusion. But it's not really "more" heat diffused, it's a faster rate of diffusion. A critical distinction.
If we assume the CPU is constantly emitting some amount of heat, say 100W, all of that heat will get out regardless of the heat sink type. A CPU at 50C will put out 100W, one at 70C will put out 100W (This isn't actually true, but in a 20C range, it's fairly close). The differences will be in CPU/Sink temperatures, not the amount of heat emitted.
You see temperature difference is the driving force for heat transfer. That means for a piece of Al to move the same amount of heat as a piece of Cu the temperature difference across the piece of Al has to be larger than the one across the Cu.
It also means a higher air-exposed surface temperature in the copper, which leads to higher transfer rate of heat to the air.

There's an example I can give that uses a can being filled water which has a hole in the bottom, if you want an analogy. (bigger hole [conductivity] = lower water level [temperature]) even though the filling rate stays the same)

Personally having had one of the older Zalman "flower-style" sinks, before they went to heat pipes, I loved it. Super quiet. I've just used the OEM sink on my i5.
I'm interested to know how loud that water cooling kit is. I've been thinking about going and building my own simple kit for just the CPU, perhaps even the video card. It's hard to figure out how much cooling you really need. I might end up with a more passive kind of system and essentially replace one wall of my case with a radiator.

Knocky · 2012-04-20, 03:51 PM

I have the OEM cooler on my 2500k, I am thinking about seeing what kind of OC I can get with it.

And I will never go liquid cooling. Looks like way too much effort when all I have to do is clean the filters from time to time.

Predator21 · 2012-04-20, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Knocky

I have the OEM cooler on my 2500k, I am thinking about seeing what kind of OC I can get with it.

And I will never go liquid cooling. Looks like way too much effort when all I have to do is clean the filters from time to time.

Goku, I thought you said OEM doesn't come with stock cooler?

Goku · 2012-04-20, 05:00 PM

OEM CPUs do not come with stock coolers. I think Knocky is referring to OEM as a stock cooler. The reason the 2500K you have is cheaper is due to not having a heastsink/fan with it.

Knocky · 2012-04-20, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Goku

OEM CPUs do not come with stock coolers. I think Knocky is referring to OEM as a stock cooler. The reason the 2500K you have is cheaper is due to not having a heastsink/fan with it.

Yeah, mine came with a cooler....thankfully since my CPU cooler didnt have an adapter for the new z68 board.

Goku · 2012-04-20, 05:07 PM

Thats odd...

Something must of changed I guess.

Knocky · 2012-04-20, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Goku

Thats odd...

Something must of changed I guess.

No...the new version of it has the adapters for the 1155 and the 775 socket.

When I bought the cooler...the 1155 did not exist. So I dont have the backplate adapter.

Goku · 2012-04-20, 11:32 PM

What cooler are you talking about?

Knocky · 2012-04-21, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Goku

What cooler are you talking about?

The one I linked too in the first page

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118019

Predator21 · 2012-04-21, 08:26 AM

Annoyingly they didn't deliver today, the gfx card went from "1 available" to "Available 27/04/12" since doing my order and they failed to notify me... I'll have to wait another week unless I change the card to something else..

This is the one I ordered:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...odid=GX-156-MS

You reckon I should wait or can you recommend another good card around the same price?