BR40 confirmed - Page 2

Bobby Shaftoe · 2012-05-31, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by NCLynx

Try using it all at once like you could in PS1 and lemme know how that goes for ya.

I couldn't carry it all.

Death2All · 2012-05-31, 10:46 PM

It's funny how people defend PS2's "cert system" when it's more or less the same issue that we had in PS1, if not worse.

SKYeXile · 2012-05-31, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by elfailo

Nor could you even cert it all in the beginning. You had to specialize, and it was very restrictive, so the broader issue is how much PS2's specialization will differentiate roles, which things get excluded when you specialize in one thing, etc.

I got the impression from the TB session that specialization is pretty deep. The Reaver you saw die at one point when the guy was shooting it with the Magrider's top mounted gun died really quickly, so it wasn't viable for A2G at all. Maybe with cert spending you can buff up its armor and shields by like 250%.

The risk of giving everyone access to everything (if specialization/exclusion isn't restrictive enough) is that it will water down combat and remove a lot of the pride in playing certain roles. If anyone can do it, why should I feel special or needed when I'm a combat engineer?

i would like to see it limited so you could essentially max only like 3 full things...so people would max a vehicle and an infantry then have enough to spend on another infantry or vehicle roll...of course you could put cert points everywhere and be master of none if you so chose.

NCLynx · 2012-05-31, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Death2All

It's funny how people defend PS2's "cert system" when it's more or less the same issue that we had in PS1, if not worse.

At what point in PS2 even with everything unlocked will you be able to either A) Use it all at the same time or B) use enough of it spread out to become a one man army?

CuddlyChud · 2012-05-31, 11:01 PM

I don't know why people like the old Planetside cert system that much. Its so frustrating when I want to play a Max or maybe fly a plane, I need to start recerting 2 or 3 6-hour periods ahead. Maybe if they removed the cert timer and put a cert terminal in every base it would be better, but that's basically what the class system does so I'm ok with it.

p0intman · 2012-05-31, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Vetto

Not really.. Cause classes will keep people in check..

No it wont. Notice how even I stopped caring about the mantra that classes will keep things balanced? This games design is fatally flawed, and I've ripped two major holes in it in the past.

Originally Posted by NCLynx

At what point in PS2 even with everything unlocked will you be able to either A) Use it all at the same time or B) use enough of it spread out to become a one man army?

Light/med assault class with an smg, self regenning sheilds and medpacks with max backup will be next to no different from now. There were at least four things I saw in TB's broadcast today that are flawed, I won't even mention them. I'll instead abuse the shit out of them and make people whine, because last time I brought anything up people disagreed with me and thought I was trolling.

Originally Posted by Xaine

I'm not sure if you're missing the point on purpose, of if you're genuinely not grasping the concept.

A 'super soldier' is something who can do all this at once. IE Planetside one, the guy that has a Lasher for AI, and a Lancer for AV, with a medi-tool and repair tool in his holster slots so he can keep himself alive, plus having boomers and whatever else he likes.

All at the same time.

In Planetside 2, you can't do that all at the same time. You can do it all eventually, just not at the same time.

If you're just trolling, then congrats. You've trolled me. You've trolled me into thinking your brain is undeveloped enough to actually believe what you just posted.

A winner is you.

Wait until I and others abuse the shit out of it and get it done anyway. I'll enjoy drinking your tears when people are certed deeply enough to do litterally everything within the game and have enough resources piled up to where it makes no difference at all to carry extra medpacks around all the time.

The Kush · 2012-05-31, 11:06 PM

Lol FAIL
Sorry to break it to ya but everyone has the same advantages you listed practically from day one with the exception of attachments and things along those lines. This game is about skill now. But very entertaining post I laughed at your pathetic logic.

Bobby Shaftoe · 2012-05-31, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by p0intman

I'll instead abuse the shit out of them and make people whine, because last time I brought anything up people disagreed with me and thought I was trolling.

Several times in the video where it was blatantly obvious they just sidestepped issues.

NCLynx · 2012-05-31, 11:14 PM

You guys are probably right, once this game hits beta the guns won't ever be changed. Hope they get them right before then!

p0intman · 2012-05-31, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by DjEclipse

Tbh ^this is the attitude that scares me most. The game is flawed, I will "fix" it. Then *********** become the most popular site for these "fixes."

You dont even NEED a different website for them. Alt accounts to purchase vehicles for characters when their timers are still on cooldown, alt accounts to stockpile resources and a bunch of other shit. Supersoldiers? I'll carry medpacks around with me all the time eventually and learn how to maximise shield regen speed. It isnt even funny how poorly designed this is turning out to be. Whats worse is I appear to be one of only a few that sees it.

2coolforu · 2012-05-31, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by p0intman

Light/med assault class with an smg, self regenning sheilds and medpacks with max backup will be next to no different from now. There were at least four things I saw in TB's broadcast today that are flawed, I won't even mention them. I'll instead abuse the shit out of them and make people whine, because last time I brought anything up people disagreed with me and thought I was trolling.

Wait until I and others abuse the shit out of it and get it done anyway.

ArbitraryDemise · 2012-05-31, 11:25 PM

Wait... wait...

Where the hell did it say that a light assault could carry a med-pack?

I was under the impression that was going to be the whole big deal about the medic class, with the assault class carrying ammo packs...

Did I miss something in all of that alpha footage?

p0intman · 2012-05-31, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by ArbitraryDemise

Wait... wait...

Where the hell did it say that a light assault could carry a med-pack?

I was under the impression that was going to be the whole big deal about the medic class, with the assault class carrying ammo packs...

Did I miss something in all of that alpha footage?

referring to them as consumables you keep on your person regardless of class, as far as ive seen. my impression is that medic 'class' gets other stuff.

edit: it has been hinted at in the past that shit like medpacks are seperate from classes.

Bags · 2012-05-31, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by ArbitraryDemise

Wait... wait...

Where the hell did it say that a light assault could carry a med-pack?

I was under the impression that was going to be the whole big deal about the medic class, with the assault class carrying ammo packs...

Did I miss something in all of that alpha footage?

They've said it for a while. Don't worry, in PS1 they had a sizable cooldown and only restored ~20% of your life.

Rumblepit · 2012-05-31, 11:32 PM

this is a option, you can be a jack of all trades, but you will be the master of none.