SoE should invite hackers to break the game - Page 2

GuyShep · 2012-06-16, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Fanglord

white hats.

This. You should look it up, Vetto.

Also, Anonymous isn't real.

fishirboy · 2012-06-16, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Vetto

This coming from the idiot who doesn't get the point of what I am saying. They have people for them that think like hackers to try and find exploits.

A REAL Hacker as in a REAL not a hired on tech help IS NOT THERE TO HELP! They are there to make a profit, find an exploit other over looked and to abuse the living shit out of it threw external means, They have 0 desire to help SoE cause it far more Fun/Profitable to just sell or use the exploit.

It be like giving all of Anonymous a invite to Ps2 Does that seem like a good idea to you?

Yes, yes I do, it would be funny first off because they would love the game and want more!

then release the whole game before it came out! Also they would not show up because there in some other country so that they can't get hit by Americans stupid government.

Vetto · 2012-06-16, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by GuyShep

This. You should look it up, Vetto.

Also, Anonymous isn't real.

Ya that large attack on Sony that shut down servers never happened. Also white hat =network dev=\= hacker

Trafalgar · 2012-06-16, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Vetto

Hacker

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Luieburger · 2012-06-16, 10:42 AM

Chances are they already have a group of these folks working for SOE.

They'd be stupid not to, especially with a game like this. Rest assured, SOE has most likely hired a crack team of security folks.

Trafalgar · 2012-06-16, 10:44 AM

If not, some of the beta-testers will poke the beta with pointy sticks and see what comes loose (but it (finding potential security flaws and exploits, testing for whether they're really exploitable, and reporting them) is obviously far more efficient and effective with source code, which is why SoE would likely want a team working for them).

GuyShep · 2012-06-16, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Vetto

Ya that large attack on Sony that shut down servers never happened. Also white hat =network dev== hacker

That doesn't prove anonymous' existence.

Also, white hats are hackers. The difference is that their role is to help whomever they're hired by, while the hackers that are in it to profit off of aimbots or cracking into things to ruin somebody's day are what you're concerned about, black hats.

Shigins · 2012-06-16, 10:46 AM

Ok as a person with a degree in the subject im going to stop all this bitching...

a Hacker = someone who likes to play with code and find vulenarbilities

a Cracker = a Malicious person who attempts to cause damage by performing hacking techniques

THERE A DIFFERENCE!!!!

Please dont post on the subject if you dont know what it means

Trafalgar · 2012-06-16, 10:52 AM

I don't bother correcting people on that anymore. Easier to just quote Inigo Montoya at them.

JHendy · 2012-06-16, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Vetto

They have people for them that think like hackers to try and find exploits.

And he's saying they should hire more of them to further proof the game.

The OP was pretty clear, you need to re-read his posts Vetto.

TheInferno · 2012-06-16, 11:16 AM

Vetto, while hacker has a primarily negative connotation, especially in the gaming communities, it's just a term. In fact, White Hat Hackers and Black Hat Hackers are terms used to differentiate a hacker who's out to actually help improve security from one out to break in.

You should not confuse the activity with the intent. Also, calling someone an idiot when they actually know what they are talking about, unlike you, is not good form.

(also, cool to see someone else going into Network Security!

)

Also I just realized GuyShep said basically what I did. Oh well.

Pella · 2012-06-16, 11:19 AM

If you learned how to hack a game, And create undetected software.

Would you:

A: Sell it to the masses and pull in £30k Tax free a month from subscribers
B: Go work for SOE with the fear of redundancy.
C: Tell SOE how you developed this money printing machine.

Fanglord · 2012-06-16, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Vetto

Ya that large attack on Sony that shut down servers never happened. Also white hat =network dev== hacker

Im by no far programmer savvy, but as far as I am aware white hat is a term to describe a hacker that hacks for the enjoyment and to direct company's to flaws in their own code/systems. Also from what i've read alot of these people get hired as QA and security.

TheInferno · 2012-06-16, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Pella

If you learned how to hack a game, And create undetected software.

Would you:

A: Sell it to the masses and pull in £30k Tax free a month from subscribers
B: Go work for SOE with the fear of redundancy.
C: Tell SOE how you developed this money printing machine.

If I had a legitimate business as white hat hackers? C. I'll make more money with a good reputation and multiple jobs, and, this is just me, but I like playing games, and I hate it when people hack them and ruin it for everyone else.

The point is, though, if they do hire hackers, they shouldn't be picking people up off the street to do it. They would need to go to a big security organization with a good reputation who's done work for big companies before (such as banks, Fortune 500 corporations, and governments, aka people who they can steal a lot more from) with no problems.

Besides, it's not like they don't get paid well.

Cuross · 2012-06-16, 11:32 AM

Not all hackers have malicious intent. There are ethical hackers or the otherwise known and aforementioned "white hat" hackers. Yes, they are part of the development team, but they are indeed hackers, fishing around the codes within the program and looking for loopholes, variables, redundancies, etc, etc, etc,. Then there are their counterparts, the ones that DO try to break into a program and exploit it, it's the job of these ethical hackers to take apart the system and figure it all out to try to prevent further breaks. A hacker is any person who tweaks, changes, or modifies a piece of hardware or software, whether for good or evil, the title is the same.

As far as the OP, I agree, they should hire some hackers to take a look at their software, the more things they can figure out before full launch, the better. But I bet they already have at least a good core group of software and system managers doing that all as we speak