Snipers, one shot one kill, or No?

[Unregistered]

Time for the history of Body Armor through the ages?

[Qanamil_Rafiki]

Sure, should be interesting.

[Tolvy]

/me nerfs the bolt driver

[Kaikou]

I think it should be a mix between 2 and 5...Most often people are gonna die if they get shot in the head, SOF2 for instance, shot in the head, doesn't matter if you have full armor/health, you're dead. The thing about that game is snipers are nowhere near being safe...I think the bolt driver should take a considerable amount of skill to use, but should do no more than 60% or 70% damage on a headshot (not including MAX armors which it should nick for a whopping 5% or so..) This would limit snipers to those who really want to be a sniper because they like the aspect of sniping. It would discourage all the people that just want to hide behind a tree and get a bunch of kills because one shot kills.

Also it would put sniping in its proper place, SUPPORT. Pick off the weaker people, leave the 100% health guys to the assault team, then pick them off when they are damaged. That is how the sniper role has been, and still is used.

Bottom line: Snipers are for SUPPORT. Not attack.

[Ravon Dark]

I think I'd have to agree and disagree with you. Support as they may be, support IS just that SUPPORT, they're supposed to help, shooting at people that are half way dead is just going to get a whole lot of insults shot at them about KSing, I do, on the other hand, think that it should take something like 30-40% for a body shot, but, for a headshot, appropriately placed mind you, that way not every little newbie can do it, is a 1 shot. Look at BF1942, sure it's smaller scale, one shot to the head from the sniper rifle kills, you don't see 6000000000000000 snipers out there, infact, there's usually like.. 3 per side the rest complain about how stupid the rifle is, blah blah blah.

[Hamma]

The BF netcode is so bad I ususally have no idea why I died

[xuur]

Yeah, you usually have to look in the scrolling deathlist to see who just got you with what.

the part that bugs me in bf1942 is where if you wait long enough it shows you the exact position of the person who just whacked you. (not always..I think its a server setting)

when you get a tank round in yer shorts, yeah, thats cool. "the guy in the tank got me. " or "Damn! that putz in the 109 just bombed me again"...its all good.

however, in the case of a scout or even std assault, the first thing it does is show you right where to go when you respawn...not good. if you just had a guy 'reach out and touch someone' I think its kinda stinks to show them right where to go and get revenge...especially if you've got a nice cover postion and field of fire for flag defense.

for now, bf1942 is passing time till PS arrives....but impressed, I'm not.

[Tobias]

if snipers arnt the best thing in the game then its flawed, so BF1942 is flawed

[Zarparchior]

Alright... As most of you probably know, my love of snipers is nill. I hate them. Satan is actually a sniper. So, it goes without saying that I'd rather have them nerf the Bolt Driver into oblivion. Of course, not even I am that stupid. Snipers are a community so a) I realize that snipers can actually be non-cheap in some games and that we should not take out a vital and important combat role and b) I value my life.

So, I feel that what would be accurate and fair would be option #5. Don't squeal all pig-like. Think about it thoroughly before you all unite in one (un)just voice. 40%-50% is a whole lot of damage. 2 shots can equal death if you're a good sniper. So... if we had a sniper team consisting of 4 decent snipers, they could sucessfully take out 2 (1 at the very least if they are much less than accurate) people per shot and reload - without getting touched. Assume the reload time is a very long 4 seconds. This means they'll take out 15-30 people with full life in 60 seconds without any retribution to them. Is that so overpowered? This does NOT make snipers less powerful in the least bit. This would just make lone wolves a hell of a lot less dangerous. This game is about teamwork! The last thing I want is to see happen to this game is for it to turn into SniperSide.

Of course, the majority of that formula depends on unknown factors such as the sniper's skill, the speed and direction the target is traveling (if at all), and the reload time of the Bolt Driver. So, don't flame me RocketPower. I already know.

In conclusion, I feel we need not worry ourselves over this. I have the utmost faith in the dev team. The Bolt Driver will do appropriate damage and will have an appropriate reload time. If this is not the case... well, that is what beta is for.

**edit: Is it Combat role or Combant role?

[Hamma]

I have every confidence the dev team will do whatever is needed to balance out the game. Snipers included.. whatever methods they take. By no means do I wish snipers to be useless heh.. I just dont want them to be able to pop off 50 people before getting spotted.

[Ravon Dark]

That's why I bring up BF42 when I talk about the snipers Hamma, because after all, you don't see them taking down 50 some odd people.. I trust the dev team, sure, but I don't want to be at the point that people are yelling at me because I'm KSing them because otherwise I don't get any kills and the other side just hoses me down every time I shoot at someone who has more then 50% health.

[xuur]

(disregard. its amazing what a refresher course in FAQ reading can do)

[Zarparchior]

Originally posted by Ravon Dark
I trust the dev team, sure, but I don't want to be at the point that people are yelling at me because I'm KSing them because otherwise I don't get any kills and the other side just hoses me down every time I shoot at someone who has more then 50% health.

Heh heh. Don't worry yourself over KSing someone. Squad BEP distribution is utterly even. This is why being a medic will be just a |33+ as being a guy in a MAX.

[Kaikou]

don't get me started on BF1942...when you're in a bomber or plane, drop a bomb/tank shell DIRECTLY on top of a guy running around, and all he does is bounce 20 feet and keep running...its not a very well made game...

[Ravon Dark]

I just use it for sniping because it's one shot kill for HS, yet not everyone plays snipers in it because it's very hard to actually hit them in the head while running, etc.