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Old 2012-07-25, 01:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv View Post
Their reasons are about the same as anybody else's reasons for anything:

"I DON'T LIKE IT! IT'S CHEAP! RAWR! IT'S BAD GAMEPLAY! RAWR! I HATE CAMPERS! IT'S CHEESE! RAWR!"

No offense to anyone... But seriously. This what 90% of debates end up coming to. Regardless of the subject
And it's the devs responsibility to remove those aspects of the game that don't make sense and/or are not fun: which they've done by not adding in prone.

From what I've seen of the videos, mobility is vastly superior to being able to prone anyway. Especially for snipers; lets not forget that infiltrators have more duties than just sniping.
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Old 2012-07-25, 02:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


Proning would make the commonly noted zerging impossible, since a character laying in prone that can shoot will most like fill the charging people with bullets before they have time to react. Without prone, firing from the hip will become an actually viable strategy, thus making advancing at the front line faster. Proning would slow down the game play, and the front line moves forwards or backwards slower. That's pretty much the only reason I'd want to see it in the game.

And to OP, games such as BF aren't the only ones with prone. I loved Red Orchestra, just because the front line was clear, and advancing actually turned tides a ton. Not to mention stale mate situations were common. (I love stale mates myself, it brings more immersion to the war).
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Old 2012-07-25, 04:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


Snipers crouch behind a hill which is just as good as prone.

I sniped a lot in PS1 and I have no desire for prone.

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Old 2012-07-27, 12:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


I am for prone, unless cover is properly implemented, which I really haven't seen any of in teh streams. I mean strafing to have a structure wall block the fire really isn't immersive.
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Old 2012-07-27, 12:55 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


Originally Posted by Gugabalog View Post
I am for prone, unless cover is properly implemented, which I really haven't seen any of in teh streams. I mean strafing to have a structure wall block the fire really isn't immersive.
What?

No its not.

Nothing I hate more than automatic "cover" systems. You just move behind the wall and its natural, its cover, it works way better.
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Old 2012-07-27, 01:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


I'm not advocating for GOW style cover. I am tlakign about cover you can crouch behind that doesn't leave your forehead stupidly exposed.
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Old 2012-07-27, 07:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


Originally Posted by Gugabalog View Post
I'm not advocating for GOW style cover. I am tlakign about cover you can crouch behind that doesn't leave your forehead stupidly exposed.
+1. I am not a sniper, I'm almost always on the front lines (or behind them) and I am an advocate for prone for this reason. It's so frustrating when games give you objects to use for cover but you can't even crouch low enough to get your head down.

Fortunately SOE has put a lot of emphasis on building every area with gameplay in mind (at least from the interviews). So as long as every object that is designed to give you cover actually works the way it should, I'm fine with no prone.

Either way, something like this is by no means a deal breaker. This game is going to be fun with or without prone.
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Old 2013-01-25, 11:50 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Yes I love to look for prone snipers in BF, just by following the sound of the shots.... Very entertaining and it's a nasty surprise when you sneak up on them and cut their throats. Guarenteed to give a sniper player a rush.

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Old 2013-01-31, 07:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


I don't see any harm in correctly implemented prone...

Aside from limitations based on the sheer size of the game, which tends to be a common issue.

Personally though I think if it's implemented in a way that forces you to lay down your weapon to actually get on the ground, it would be fine.

And, of course, the same for trying to get up. A crawling rise and stumble combined with no use of your weapon.
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Old 2013-02-01, 05:19 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


Originally Posted by Baneblade View Post
So being invisible isn't enough of a boon to snipers?
The only thing that will be easier with prone is finding cover. But anything that can shoot at you you can shoot back at. Prone with not make it harder to spot players. At least that is my experience from COD, BF or any other FPS game where you can prone.
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Old 2013-02-01, 05:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Originally Posted by Ratstomper View Post
And it's the devs responsibility to remove those aspects of the game that don't make sense and/or are not fun: which they've done by not adding in prone.
Fun and what make sense are personal opinions. We all have different opinions so....
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Old 2013-02-01, 07:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Re: Will players be able to go prone?


I'll be the asshole to do it.


We already have people jumping around like they are coked up because of unlimited stamina, don't battlefieldify the game more.
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