How do I fight people? - Page 2

maradine · 2012-11-14, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by ringring

Go there and uncontested it.

My new outfit motto.

PoisonTaco · 2012-11-14, 12:08 PM

I fight people by shooting at them.

Bags · 2012-11-14, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by TheMarz

Having the game "rushed or have bugs" in it has what to do with finding people to kill. All I am saying is if you played ps1 than you should have a solid idea of what to do in ps2

Not really there's very few similarities apart from scale and 3 empires.

Originally Posted by PoisonTaco

I fight people by shooting at them.

Thanks I will keep that in mind next time.

MrBloodworth · 2012-11-14, 02:13 PM

Am I the only one that sees this question as a effect of the extremely short duration of battles?

I Can't be.

Bags · 2012-11-14, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Am I the only one that sees this question as a effect of the extremely short duration of battles?

I Can't be.

I agree. I jumped back into the game 2 hours later, and managed to find a fight. That lasted like 10 minutes and then I spent the rest of my session trying to find a fight and settled trying to interject myself in a VS/NC fight.

Aurmanite · 2012-11-14, 02:51 PM

If you are bad at navigating Planetside 2, you must have been bad at navigating Planetside 1. It's really the same thing.

It's the same thing.

Crator · 2012-11-14, 03:00 PM

Really?

PS1: Lattice links that tell you the next locations you can attack.

PS2: Hexes that go in any direction (except for off the map)

PS1: Flags above locations that are being captured with added function of double-clicking location to see how long the capture is going to be.

PS2: Hexes that blink.

Aurmanite · 2012-11-14, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Crator

Really?

PS1: Lattice links that tell you the next locations you can attack.

PS2: Hexes that go in any direction (except for off the map)

PS1: Flags above locations that are being captured with added function of double-clicking location to see how long the capture is going to be.

PS2: Hexes that blink.

You think those are all that different? Really? Lattice is not at all like the adjacency system in terms of determining where you may attack next.

Blinking is different than a flag? Aren't they both visual indicators? One could say an entire hex blinking is much easier to see than a little red/blue/purple flag.

Finding your way around in Planetside 2 is almost no different than is was in Planetside. The only obstruction for a veteran is learning the map. After that it's virtually identical.

Crator · 2012-11-14, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

You think those are all that different? Really? Lattice is not at all like the adjacency system in terms of determining where you may attack next.

Blinking is different than a flag? Aren't they both visual indicators? One could say an entire hex blinking is much easier to see than a little red/blue/purple flag.

Finding your way around in Planetside 2 is almost no different than is was in Planetside. The only obstruction for a veteran is learning the map. After that it's virtually identical.

If you can't tell how they are different I can't help you. They are though. I personally had issues with the hex flashing. I'm not saying it's not viable, some might like the hex flashing, but it defiantly is not intuitive that hex flashing means it's under attack. Even if it was (something told you on the UI what it is) I would still prefer the flags. Make it a toggable option for players.

Also, I'm not thinking about these things from a veteran's point of view. I have the ability to look at something from someone's point of view that knows nothing about the system at all. Shouldn't the things in the game be made to assist newcomers?

Also, when we are talking about navigating in the game in this thread talking about having issues finding fights, we are talking about issues that related to the hex/adjacency system which spreads out everyone. The OP was talking about finding the big fights which is hard to do in PS2. Wonder why that is.

MrBloodworth · 2012-11-14, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

If you are bad at navigating Planetside 2, you must have been bad at navigating Planetside 1. It's really the same thing.

It's the same thing.

Its like you like being wrong or something.

Aurmanite · 2012-11-14, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Its like you like being wrong or something.

No, I'm just free from the chains of hideously disfigured feelings about a game that was decent for no more than 2 years. Even though that game is one of my favorites of all time.

If you're having problems finding big battles in Planetside 2, and you're a veteran of the first game, and you're playing during relatively peak hours, you are probably wearing your pants on your head.

I'm not saying it's not viable, some might like the hex flashing, but it defiantly is not intuitive that hex flashing means it's under attack. Even if it was (something told you on the UI what it is) I would still prefer the flags. Make it a toggable option for players.

Are flags really more intuitive, or just what you're used to? The huge amount of information displayed on the bases in Planetside was really hard on new players. Not intuitive at all.

Bags · 2012-11-14, 05:20 PM

I had no problems finding fights in ps. But I struggle to do so and I personally followed the game for a year. So yeah it's an issue six of my new friends have with the game. My friend who go t into beta on Monday said to me when I asked how it was ... "We'll driving in an empty cont was kind of fun I guess. "

Crator · 2012-11-14, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

Are flags really more intuitive, or just what you're used to? The huge amount of information displayed on the bases in Planetside was really hard on new players. Not intuitive at all.

That's a good question. But yes, I really do feel it is more intuitive. Perhaps someone who isn't used to shooter games can confirm that? I do agree that there were a lot of things shown on the map in PS1 on bases. But I don't agree that the capture flags weren't figured out fairly quickly. This would've have been helped a lot more if it were incorporated in a tutorial.

How is a player supposed to understand that a flashing hex means it's contested vs. a capture indicator right over the location being captured, not over the entire hex grid that the location is a part of?
Which is easier to put on a map legend and understand? A flashing hex or capture flags?

Raymac · 2012-11-14, 06:35 PM

I think it's a legit gripe. I havn't gotten to play PS2 as much as I would like (combination of poor CPU performance, work, and a new GF), and it's taking me a bit of time to get a hang of things.

For example, in PS1, it was easy to find a bigger fight because you would get a large number of hotspots in a relatively small area. In PS2, there is no such indicator. Many times I show up to a fight right as it is wrapping up or already over. I've been in a bunch of great fights, but I'm realizing how amazingly helpful that hotspot indicator was in PS1.

boogy · 2012-11-14, 06:39 PM

how to find a good fight? Instant action to a front line hot spot. If no one is there that means the zerg has moved on. Suicide and spawn at the closest sunderer along the front lines. You will find a nice fight doing this 90% of the time.