Prowler lock down, an unused ability?

[MrBloodworth]

A potential buff would be to increase the amount of damage a prowler can take while locked down.

[Mietz]

Originally Posted by EVILPIG

This ability will receive the traditional TR treatment. On the forums, it will be called useless and a deathtrap. Those who play TR or know other TR will rave about it in secrecy.

Shit, i didn't know it was supposed to be secret...sorry

[ringring]

Originally Posted by ringring

It's one of those things where you can't see the point.

I'd much prefer to put my cert into reload or IR smoke or to reduce the timer.

OTOH, the NC and VS (NC especially) seem they would be much more useful.


Disclaimer, as always the Devs have got the data that would show whether there is any unbalance overall, and I suspect there isn't between the TR and NC while VS due to strafing is slightly better.

If that is true, if the TR special ability is buffed there may have to be a compensating nerf elsewhere.

Well, Higby has just proved me wrong. He's buffed lock down and other stuff besides.

[ringring]

Originally Posted by Calisai

I actually saw a few prowlers using it semi-effectively. Out in the desert north of Quartz ridge as we pushed out. A few were locked down behind a few rocks and using the cover to spam shells into us as we crossed the desert.

I say semi-effectively because my crew flanked them and took them out at distance with the Saron. But they seemed to get a lot of kills from the zerglings that just rushed them head on... until we sniped them from the side.

Either way... it seems very situational.. and less useful overall than the Shield or even the boost.

Does it give a boost in accuracy as well? or just fire speed?

I believe it is just fire speed, although I can't say I've ever used it even in TT and beta.

But yea. It must be very situational. Use it when you can't get flanked, maybe in a hull-down position like out saw and maybe use side armour for the times when you are flanked.

TBH, it sounds just the same as the TR max from PS1. Very situational, but if you know the situation (and have a couple of pocket engineers constantly repairing your) it may be worthwhile. But why would I put certs into this when I can cert into something else like smoke IR and increased reload?

** with lock down increased ammo would be a must.

[EVILPIG]

Originally Posted by ringring

I believe it is just fire speed, although I can't say I've ever used it even in TT and beta.

But yea. It must be very situational. Use it when you can't get flanked, maybe in a hull-down position like out saw and maybe use side armour for the times when you are flanked.

TBH, it sounds just the same as the TR max from PS1. Very situational, but if you know the situation (and have a couple of pocket engineers constantly repairing your) it may be worthwhile. But why would I put certs into this when I can cert into something else like smoke IR and increased reload?

** with lock down increased ammo would be a must.

Getting hulldown would be great, but dont limit yourself too much. If you are in a Prowler and run into a Vanguard you can just lock down and open the can of whoops ass. It's a good ability.

[Dougnifico]

I can attest to this^

[Rolfski]

Expect this to become way more useful in the future. Not only because of the upcoming buff, but being able to quickly take out turrets or other vehicles once the shield go down can come in very handy with the upcoming increased focus on defense.

[Snowfake]

Think Higby just answered this one with latest tweets

[Tachyr]

The Prowler is still useless at medium to long distance due to recoil and barrel drift.

It is so much easier to hit at long distances with the Lightning, Mag's and Van's.

The prowler is an anti infantry tank primarily and a so so close combat anti vehicle.

I kill way more tanks with my lighting and AP and a good optic than I can ever do with a Prowler with equal certs.



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[Ruffdog]

If you max out the anchor (level 4 offers 48% of original reload time) and max out the main gun (level 5 offers 10%) they stack to give you 58% off the 2.5 seconds which is 1.05 seconds. If you're a good shot you can melt tanks

But yes it is situational

[Rumblepit]

lol you dont see it much because a locked down prowler is fodder for the sniping mags.

[Tachyr]

Throw in some smiling ESF pilots in the mix and anchors make zero sense.

It was a bad ability in PS1 and even worse in PS2 due to the high pace.

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[EVILPIG]

"A tradition of whining"

[Eggy]

I tried the deploy in beta (maxed out) found its effectiveness somewhere between situational and useless, with most of the time it being a direct factor in getting my tank killed.

The vanguard shield and too some extent the mag burner can both be used as offensive and defensive tools, the deploy for the prowler just turns you into a big sitting duck a free kill for Air, an enemy tank or even a brave HA, LA or Engineer.

With all the lockon weapons in the game, and with more promised to come your better off spending those certs on smoke. Being able to use smoke every 15 seconds will save your tank a whole lot more than deploy will.

[Chaff]

I have lockdown Certed - but only Step-1. It didn't seem to help. Ruffdog's numbers of reducing reload by 58% give me cause to rethink my Cert plans going forward. However, to get to where he's talking is a butt-pile of Certs .... and like the Mag .... is prone to get altered soon after you learn to use & enjoy its potential.

It's Very Situational indeed. In the right battle - it sounds Very fun. However, any semi-ideal combat scenario will likely only occur perhpas once in every 20 online sessions.


What are the plans to allow a complete reset of Cert use ? I enjoyed that option in PS1. Didn't do it a lot, but it helped me keep playing longer (and more) than I would of without that feature.
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