Delete the crown - Page 2

AThreatToYou · 2013-02-21, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

The Crown is going to be buffed to be an Interlink when that base type is introduced.

I approve.

NewSith · 2013-02-21, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

The Crown is going to be buffed to be an Interlink when that base type is introduced.

I know it's a joke, but in case anyone percieves it as a possibility - it's not gonna happen, since then there will be two bases right next to each other. And then it would be PlanetSide 1-like. And PlanetSide 1-like is bad. I don't know why. But it is.

Wahooo · 2013-02-21, 03:52 PM

If the continents weren't a forced 24/7 3way the dead center of the map would be less of an issue. The overall continent design and the forced 3-way fights are the problem that needs a solution.

Tatwi · 2013-02-21, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Wahooo

If the continents weren't a forced 24/7 3way the dead center of the map would be less of an issue. The overall continent design and the forced 3-way fights are the problem that needs a solution.

So true.

I still think that there should only be a single warpgate on each continent, which allows vehicles to be taken to other continents, and the "footholds" should be huge aircraft carriers out in the ocean. Galaxies would be able to carry a tank. Players would be able to "take a shuttle to a different continent" if they like (using the terminal as we do now). The aircraft carriers would slowly travel around the continent and occasionally come very close to each other, for shits and giggles.

Babyfark McGeez · 2013-02-21, 05:27 PM

Just for fun, check out Indar on Miller right now. TR is warpgated...but has the crown lol.

Wahooo · 2013-02-21, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Babyfark McGeez

Just for fun, check out Indar on Miller right now. TR is warpgated...but has the crown lol.

Because territory doesn't actually matter... like at all.

Babyfark McGeez · 2013-02-21, 05:46 PM

What has that to do with the faction owning the crown usually losing everything else though?

Also: YAY, we finally lost the crown. Might check indar now.

DirtyBird · 2013-02-21, 05:47 PM

If I jump on for a quick short game then places like the Crown are perfect.
There is usually some action happening and can get a quick fix asap.

I reckon there are a lot of casual players that use places like the Crown for the same reason.
Now with all those little bait fish wandering aimlessly at the Crown that will also drag in a few sharks to feast on them and the frenzy continues.

I cant wait til we are forced off Indar onto the other continents.
Some of the best fights I've been in were not on Indar.
Maybe factions are afraid of losing Indar if they leave it.

Wahooo · 2013-02-21, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Wahooo

Because territory doesn't actually matter... like at all.

Originally Posted by Babyfark McGeez

What has that to do with the faction owning the crown usually losing everything else though?

Everything. My two outfits in PS1 both had similar play styles. Set-up small squad base captures to try and instigate an out of the way fight, and/or quick response re-secures. I got in the habit of checking the map often and getting to and trying to protect hacks on our continents. Keeping territory meaningful even after the pops got low enough it really lost most of its meaning and all we had was constant Cyssor-side with the occasional break of Baal 3-way.

What is a typical play session on PS2 for me? Hot drop where I think I can have the best luck killing others and the only time I look at the map is when I'm trying to decide where I should hot-drop into next. I generally know that if I look at the map and see a bunch of territory turning a bad color it doesn't matter. It has no consequence to me at all. It doesn't prevent the fight from moving to another base, it doesn't push my empire back to sanctuary to narrow our attack options, it doesn't even do anything more for that other empire cause I know most people aren't in danger of running out of resources so that few extra they get from our stuff isn't going to make a difference.

What else? That territory was probably taken with less than a platoon of enemies, which means while i'm still fighting and having fun at the crown or a bio-lab some other poor schmucks are going to just ghost most of those hexes right back.

I hate playing whack-a-mole with 5 guys who just won't stop trying to back-hack or retake hexes or continue to drop gens when the big battle has moved on.

Sit at the crown and shoot other people. Shooting for certs means a whole lot more than gaining/protecting hexes.

camycamera · 2013-02-21, 06:17 PM

i have said this before and i will say this again. they will not remove the crown.

the only way to stop the problem with everyone fighting on Indar on the crown etc, and getting them to fight somewhere else like on another continent, is to have CONTINENT LOCK.

bpostal · 2013-02-21, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by NewSith

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EDIT: At least with the Crown, I can go somewhere where defending is fun and not just a complete steamroll every time.

Yep.
Tactically it's one of the best places to fight at. Strategically, it's shit.

zulu · 2013-02-21, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Babyfark McGeez

What has that to do with the faction owning the crown usually losing everything else though?

Also: YAY, we finally lost the crown. Might check indar now.

Because people go where there are certs. Right now you don't get nearly as many certs capturing territory as you do just playing Team Deathmatch at the Crown. That is why every zerg makes a beeline for the Crown. That is why everyone will stay at the Crown even if their faction is pushed back to their warpgate -- because it doesn't matter that they've been warpgated, and they can still stay at the Crown and farm certs. It's that simple.

Territory doesn't matter. There's no reason to leave the Crown unless you like capturing bases or you like playing with vehicles. If you want certs, you go to the Crown.

seanman · 2013-02-21, 11:01 PM

i agree for deleting the crown
everyday, there's a big fight at indar on TI alloy, zurvan, crossroad, crown.
Another region was forgetten.
Where zerg gonna go is crown, crown is the best farming cert. Amerish and Esamir ghost capping.
What is indar? they forgot about indar what they remember is the crown.
There's a quote Planetside 2 = the crown.
Once im there, i play tdm or ctf crown and cross road with blue flag, red flag, purple flag.

I know best strategy to start from crown but for zerg crown is farming cert. They wont go or leave from crown

Sturmhardt · 2013-02-21, 11:08 PM

It's the result of the fact that there is no reason to fight around territory since it's captured back 20 minutes later... People don't even bother anymore.

.sent via phone.

OCNSethy · 2013-02-21, 11:30 PM

When I was a fresh grunt, new to the game, someone suggested going to the Crown to get some experience (not XP) and learn how things worked in the game. Which I did and had a ball. I still have a soft spot for the Crown for that reason. I like going there on occasions but there's more to be had in this game besides the Crown.

I wonder how many newbies still keep going back for similiar reasons?

Remember too, not everyone cares about the whole meta game, continental warfare, own the continent thing. They just wanna have some fun and kill things.

The Crown, Ti Alloy etc offer that to them. Thats a powerful carrot thats dangling right there. It needs more powerful carrots to make them want to leave the Crown but stay in the game.