Account Wide Unlocks in Next GU

[MrBloodworth]

Correct me if I am wrong, but there are only one type of Faction Specific weapons, and they all have equivalents in other factions.

There is no Jackhammer and a Sidegrade jackhammer. This goes for Secondary tanks guns and Maxes.

[Twido]

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Because they cost the same, and Rate of fire and blue orbs have nothing to do with the Value of a Dollar. Why would faction have jack all to do with it?

Because when you spend your money to buy a chaingun, you get exactly what you paid for and you can't really blame SOE for that!

It would be nice to get equivalent unlocks in the other factions, but I don't think SOE have any moral obligation to give us it.

[MrBloodworth]

Originally Posted by Twido

Because when you spend your money to buy a chaingun, you get exactly what you paid for and you can't really blame SOE for that!

It would be nice to get equivalent unlocks in the other factions, but I don't think SOE have any moral obligation to give us it.

Its not a moral obligation.

I will not be buying the empire specific HA gun on another faction. I have no need ( Its not where my time and money investment is ), and with the current cert system, there is still no need to even roll another toon.

They won't see the kind of money I have spent already on one toon and one faction two times.

That's for suckers.

However unlocks across factions would allow me to buy other guns if I ever play another faction. Plainly put, the lack of this will enshrine I never play another faction, nor be tempted after that to buy anything else.

[Sledgecrushr]

This is really good news. I hope there are some comparable rifle unlocks for the other factions.

[Dragonskin]

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

Who would make another toon on the same faction, other than on another server?

That makes no sense. What you propose as the outcome can not be justified to me, they will loose a customer.

They have to have some kind of restrictions. They are in this to make money after all. While the Jackhammer, Lasher and Chaingun are all the special HA weapons for their factions.. none of them are remotely similar. I honestly don't expect to be able to buy a Lasher for my VS (which I have) and then be able to use the Chaingun on my TR (I haven't bought yet). When you buy a faction specific weapon you are buying that particular weapon.. not all weapons in that class type that could remotely be associated. Just because a set of weapons were released at the same doesn't make them mirrors of each other.

From a money standpoint it doesn't make business sense to loose out on all that potential money when they already will make all common pool items account wide for all characters.

If I'm wrong then I would be happy, but I am not getting my hopes up. Would be nice if I was wrong.

[MrBloodworth]

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

They have to have some kind of restrictions. They are in this to make money after all. While the Jackhammer, Lasher and Chaingun are all the special HA weapons for their factions.. none of them are remotely similar.

They cost the same. In game faction differences should not be part of the equation. They are all HA guns, they are equivalent, each faction has one. A dollar is a dollar.

Again, for me, this is a barrier to spend any money on anything if I ever decide to try another faction. The money, time and or cert ( Time ) barrier is prohibitive.

And again, we are not talking about items that have side grades.


We need clarification.

[Dragonskin]

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

They cost the same.

And that means what? How is that relevant to the arguement? Most good weapons in the game are 700 SC. So you spent 700 SC and now you have access to all weapons that cost 700 SC?

[Dragonskin]

I'm not against your idea really, I just don't think it will happen that way. That sounds too good to be true. I am purposely not buying items that might be account wide like that for a reason. In case I am wrong I don't have to worry about anything.

[MrBloodworth]

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

And that means what? How is that relevant to the arguement? Most good weapons in the game are 700 SC. So you spent 700 SC and now you have access to all weapons that cost 700 SC?

It means that that's the only thing that matters when you are talking money.

If I buy a grounder, it should be account wide. Not gated by faction for arbitrary reasons. "Because faction" does not carry water. This is especialy true for like items that are faction specific. A 400$ TV is a TV, no matter its color.

I have also avoided buying like items that are factional for this reason, there is no value in it, its not where my time investment is.

If they choose to go "Because faction" they have lost sales on other items.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

It means that that's the only thing that matters when you are talking money.

If I buy a grounder, it should be account wide. Not gated by faction for arbitrary reasons. "Because faction" does not carry water.

I have also avoided buying like items that are factional for this reason, there is no value in it, its not where my time investment is.

Well, I can see why they wouldn't. Each gun has some work put into it, like the modeling, the artwork, the way it performs. It may be in the same class of weapons, but it also is a unique weapon that has had work put into it.

[maradine]

Originally Posted by Frozenland

Please, you are asking for too much.

I wasn't asking for anything other than clarification. I don't run multiple characters, and for the purposes of this game I have effectively inexhaustible funds.

[MrBloodworth]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Well, I can see why they wouldn't. Each gun has some work put into it, like the modeling, the artwork, the way it performs. It may be in the same class of weapons, but it also is a unique weapon that has had work put into it.

They are all the same price.

I'm not disagreeing with those of you who think it won't be the case. I'm simply stating I will be highly disappointed, see no logic in that direction, and see it as impacting revenue in other areas.

I do not buy the same cars two times, because I switched suits. I have not yet, and will not later. For me, there would nearly no benefit from account wide unlocks in your prediction, and I have a hard time believing any responsible adult would ether.

Who has the time and money to invest in to BR 100 on three toons along with the monetary unlocks? Conversely I have time to start a new toon, from the level I have invested and have the likely hood of buying/trying truly differentiated weapons and such, ESPECIALLY if I know that investment carry over and does not end just because I went from purple to red. True revenue will come from added content.

I simply won't start over money and time wise. That's an unreasonable expectation.

[bpostal]

It sounds like there's two main schools of thought:
1: I paid for a HA faction specific weapon
2: I paid for a MCG (OR JH OR Lasher)
That's where the issue comes into play.
My personal guess is that when you bought an MCG, you bought an MCG.
I mean, SOE's gots ta get paid.

We probably will see a plea for more NS weapons after this though (Punisher anyone?).

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

They are all the same price.

I'm not disagreeing with those of you who think it won't be the case. I'm simply stating I will be highly disappointed, see no logic in that direction, and see it as impacting revenue in other areas.

I do not buy the same cars two times. I have not yet, and will not later. For me, there would nearly no benefit from account wide unlocks in your prediction, and I have a hard time believing any responsible adult would ether.

Who has the time and money to invest in to BR 100 on three toons along with the monetary unlocks? Conversely I have time to start a new toon, from the level I have invested and have the likely hood of buying/trying truly differentiated weapons and such, ESPECIALLY if I know that investment carry over and does not end just because I went from purple to red.

I simply won't start over money and time wise. That's an unreasonable expectation.

Ah, okay. In other words, what's the point? Why would I start another VS toon when I already have a built up one? So, the only REAL benefit to account wide unlocks is if they let you have the other factional weapons in the same class. Otherwise, there is no benefit to the costumer. Is that what you are getting at?

[RSphil]

cool, tbh not bothered about weapon unlocks but cosmetic stuff would be great. my TR has more camo and stuff then my NC so account wide will be great. can wait