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Old 2013-04-09, 01:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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Re: Why do SOE keep adding generic weapons into the game?


Since the SMGs they have been stepping up the weapon design so each looks unique. Check out the new pump shotguns on the test server, very cool.
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Old 2013-04-10, 05:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...owsperpage=250

Now it is official, the new shotgun got a full damage of 1474.
The old one got 1430 pre-nerf.

They told us they nerfed the old shotgun for balance issues.

It is clear that the did that just to sell the new one!

With the old one you can no longer:
One shot kill a heavy with shield on.
Kill a maxes without reloading.

All of that can be done again with the new shotgun!

This is bullshit, more bullshit them they did with the smg, with the smg at least they didn´t nerf them before releasing the new one!
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Old 2013-04-10, 05:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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Yea i gotta say thats a really dirty move by SOE. Didnt know they would go that low :/ lol

I understand maximising profit as a business objective but i think introducing proper new content (not the recycled stuff we get from time to time) like unique weapons and designs. eg Rocket Rifle from ps1 or anything that adds a good bit of variety to the game would be much more appreciated by the real everyday players..

I would definatly spend more on the game thats for sure.. At the moment gonna hold off for a couple of months
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Old 2013-04-10, 06:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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If we keep buying recycled goods, they'll continue to stock the shelves with them. Recycled or reskinned content = minimal internal cost to program or do any real artistic work, while reaping the $$$$$$.........as an overall population, we must be dumb sheep.
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Old 2013-04-10, 07:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally Posted by Chaff View Post
If we keep buying recycled goods, they'll continue to stock the shelves with them. Recycled or reskinned content = minimal internal cost to program or do any real artistic work, while reaping the $$$$$$.........as an overall population, we must be dumb sheep.
My outfit members told me that the old shotgun really looks like the t5 amc!
The new shotgun is same shotgun with smaller diferences.

All the same attachments, same rate of fire, same ammo, almost same skin, and the same damage as the old one pre-nerf!

FUCK SOE! If you want to sell garbage, at least don´t screw with the garbage we already bought!
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Old 2013-04-11, 07:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Lol.. Ahh good old SOE.. minimizing costs by having less work done on new or should I say recycled/reskinned weapons and reaping the benefits.. Guess it helps them recover all the costs that actually went into developing the game as it still is an on going process.. but its unfortunate that this damages the quality of the game itself making it have more of a washed out f2p characteristic :/
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Old 2013-04-11, 08:14 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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I think it is kind of neat, If you walk into a store that sells nothing but ARs you will see 1000s of variations of the M16, M4, M416, AK-47, AK-74, AK-102, Mp5, p90, UZI all of these real world gun designs have hundreds of variations that all look the similar and yet people still buy them. I have a friend that owns 3 AK-47s why he brought 3 is because one is from China 1 from Romania and 1 from Poland all them look basically the same all fire pretty much the same but he wanted them because to him there different. Just a different way of looking at it.
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Old 2013-04-11, 08:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Originally Posted by Falcon_br View Post
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You must be new, they've been doing this since the first release of new weapons. I imagine every TR medic still remembers the TRV nerf to make way for the TAR . It wasnt a game balance change, it literally was a straight up nerf to the TRV to generate TAR sales.

Also that damage increase of the new vs old pumpy isnt hugely different, the new one feels slower overall to shoot/reload. I wish they had kept the blackjack model on the nighthawk, that was so badass.
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Old 2013-04-11, 08:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Originally Posted by Koadster View Post
You must be new, they've been doing this since the first release of new weapons. I imagine every TR medic still remembers the TRV nerf to make way for the TAR . It wasnt a game balance change, it literally was a straight up nerf to the TRV to generate TAR sales.

Also that damage increase of the new vs old pumpy isnt hugely different, the new one feels slower overall to shoot/reload. I wish they had kept the blackjack model on the nighthawk, that was so badass.
Dude, I made a test with an outfit friend, same rate of fire and same reload speed!
And the damage is a big deal, one shot kill heavy with shield is OP, I agreed with the nerf, but not to release a new one with the same old stats!
Why didn't they release the new one with the new old one status and leave us alone with the old one with the old status?
I suggested in the forum to they to make double barrel shotguns, bigger and slow to pump shotgun, anything, but doing the same weapon with a almost the same skin is futile!
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