The Jackhammer - Page 2

ThatGoatGuy · 2013-04-26, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ghoest9

Stop whining about the MCG.

Its not great but its not bad either - it has a niche.
The Jackhammer simply is worse than then other shotguns. It has no specific situation where you would ever choose it.

that said - it doesnt really matter - its just kind of lame

This comment is so ignorant that all I can do is this...

I'm not saying either of the heavy faction specific weapons is better than the other, I'm just saying that each is equally hard to use. I would have to say I feel the worst for the VS, their gun doesn't even do direct damage!

Whiteagle · 2013-04-26, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Mustakrakish

In the end, if they made bust-fire mode a bit faster and made the magazines bigger (maybe 10 stock, 20 w/ extended mag), the Jackhammer would go from being the red-headed stepchild of shotguns to being a truly fearsome weapon.

I'd be alright with this, a faster burst wouldn't make it any worst then a One-hit Pump-action and all the other Heavy Chain Gun Specials have deep Mags anyways.

Ghoest9 · 2013-04-26, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by ThatGoatGuy

This comment is so ignorant that all I can do is this...

Funny Black Guy Laughing - YouTube

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In other words you dont actually have a point - youre just trying to vaguely promote the lie that TR is at a disadvantage.

Dragonskin · 2013-04-26, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by ThatGoatGuy

I'm not saying either of the heavy faction specific weapons is better than the other, I'm just saying that each is equally hard to use. I would have to say I feel the worst for the VS, their gun doesn't even do direct damage!

Haha, ok... you are in The Enclave. Your fearless leader went out of his way one day to try to show how bad the MCG was before the buff that was supposed to fix spin up. He goes on kill spree after kill spree all while mowing down people and talking about how terrible the MCG is.

Sorry, but Buzzcut isn't a super skillful player. That is why he always gravitates to whatever gives him an edge and he freely admits that.

I would link the recording, but it looks like I can't get to any of his recording right now. He spent 45 minutes to an hour killing people with only the MCG.

Anyway, back on topic. The Jackhammer isn't terrible.. it's just not great. I was actually killed by one last night at a good range... for a shotgun it's range is impressive. As for why that is a good thing.. you can kill things at multiple ranges without switching weapons. The pump shotguns are nice, but outside like 20m they are crap while the Jackhammer will still hit people fairly reliably. 3 shot burst is nice to cut down on burning through ammo so quickly. Could it use a buff? Probably. The MCG needs it's spin up fixed, but after that it would be pretty beast.. just the model still sucks and could use a animation update like the Lasher received.

If I played NC I would probably own one.

Baneblade · 2013-04-26, 10:25 AM

Jackhammer should have 12 round mag without upgrades and be able to cert a 24 round drum upgrade.

Dragonskin · 2013-04-26, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

Jackhammer should have 12 round mag without upgrades and be able to cert a 24 round drum upgrade.

That is a buff I could agree with. Damage wise it's sitting pretty nice.

Kail · 2013-04-26, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

Jackhammer should have 12 round mag without upgrades and be able to cert a 24 round drum upgrade.

That's honestly the biggest complaint I have about the jackhammer; as a shotgun you really can't play with its damage much, but it really should have a larger magazine and waaay more total ammo.

And a suppressor. Why would the ultimate shotgun of scifi not have a suppressor? I mean come on now.

DrankTHEKoolaid · 2013-04-26, 11:26 AM

All three of them suck, I actually think the Jackhammer is the best. It rewards accuracy and if you can be really accurate it's better than other shotguns in certain situations.

The thing that sucks is that it's not very unique. It's not that different from the other shotguns where as the MCG and Lasher are.

Dragonskin · 2013-04-26, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Kail

That's honestly the biggest complaint I have about the jackhammer; as a shotgun you really can't play with its damage much, but it really should have a larger magazine and waaay more total ammo.

And a suppressor. Why would the ultimate shotgun of scifi not have a suppressor? I mean come on now.

Because PS2 imitates the Battlefield series and not Call of Duty haha.

Dodgy Commando · 2013-04-26, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

Because PS2 imitates the Battlefield series and not Call of Duty haha.

Actually BF3 Shotties have a suppressor accessory if you look them up in the Battlelog. Only available to DICE employees of course

A suppressed shottie in PS2? I'd be ok with it, but I fear it would cause much whinage forumside.

Ghoest9 · 2013-04-26, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

Jackhammer should have 12 round mag without upgrades and be able to cert a 24 round drum upgrade.

Thats the smartest suggestion i have seen for fixing it.

RykerStruvian · 2013-04-26, 01:38 PM

A larger magazine both uncerted/certed would make sense and give it a nice edge. That would be pretty cool. And to be honest, I would like it too if IR/NV was an option to cert into. Those pesky vanu and their pitch black textures in biolab fights at night :l

ThatGoatGuy · 2013-04-26, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Ghoest9

In other words you dont actually have a point - youre just trying to vaguely promote the lie that TR is at a disadvantage.

Maybe you just can't read...

Originally Posted by ThatGoatGuy

I'm not saying either of the heavy faction specific weapons is better than the other, I'm just saying that each is equally hard to use. I would have to say I feel the worst for the VS, their gun doesn't even do direct damage!

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

Haha, ok... you are in The Enclave. Your fearless leader went out of his way one day to try to show how bad the MCG was before the buff that was supposed to fix spin up. He goes on kill spree after kill spree all while mowing down people and talking about how terrible the MCG is.

Sorry, but Buzzcut isn't a super skillful player. That is why he always gravitates to whatever gives him an edge and he freely admits that.

I would link the recording, but it looks like I can't get to any of his recording right now. He spent 45 minutes to an hour killing people with only the MCG.

Did I ever say ANYTHING relating to TE or BuzzCutPsycho in any way? No, I clearly did not. I am claiming that the MCG is bad, the Jackhammer is bad, and the lasher is bad. I am not claiming ANY of them is good, that one is better. I THINK THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE. This claiming that because I'm in TE immediately means that I suck buzz's dick when it comes to any of his opinions, well quite frankly it is ridiculous and please proceed to do suck one yourself.

Dragonskin · 2013-04-26, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by ThatGoatGuy

Maybe you just can't read...

Picard's Epic Double Facepalm - YouTube

Did I ever say ANYTHING relating to TE or BuzzCutPsycho in any way? No, I clearly did not. I am claiming that the MCG is bad, the Jackhammer is bad, and the lasher is bad. I am not claiming ANY of them is good, that one is better. I THINK THEY ARE ALL TERRIBLE. This claiming that because I'm in TE immediately means that I suck buzz's dick when it comes to any of his opinions, well quite frankly it is ridiculous and please proceed to do suck one yourself.

LOL overly defensive about your leader and services you may or may not provide him. I was simply stating that your leader Buzzcut was trying to point out that the MCG sucks will killing tons of people left and right. You are free to do whatever you want for your leader... those were your words.. not mine.

Goldymires · 2013-04-26, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by leifnielsen

You should feel bad for them. They get paid shit.

Not really true. People in the industry get paid reasonably well. With QA testers getting paid the least and the business side (CEO, legal etc) getting paid the most.