Help me help you!Hackers - Page 2

Rumblepit · 2013-05-19, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sunrock

If it's server lag then you have it too so... But how do you know if they exploit that intentional or not? You never can. Thats way you report even if only 80% sure it might have been foul play.

force lag, modem tapping, plug pulling just to name a few that people are using in planetside 2. these are not hacks,they are common exploits found in all fps games. im sure the devs have ways to catch these scrubs. also they are easy to spot.

Sunrock · 2013-05-19, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

force lag, modem tapping, plug pulling just to name a few that people are using in planetside 2. these are not hacks,they are common exploits found in all fps games. im sure the devs have ways to catch these scrubs. also they are easy to spot.

Well cheating is cheating no matter how you do it and it's equally banable to exploit as it is to actually really hack the game.

Rumblepit · 2013-05-19, 10:46 AM

true, do you know to spot a person modem tapping? do you know how to spot a person using a lag switch?do you know how to spot the newest hacks? do you know what the newest hacks are? its ok , most dont, and if we cant discuss how they work, and what they are, and what to look for then what do we do? we could all take your approach and say let the devs handle it. They gave us the /report because we wanted it, players asked for it, we didnt have one for along time,but we as players wanted a easy way to report hackers. so to use the feature as intended we need to know what to look for. the entire point of this thread is to come up with a way to share all this information. i really dont care if you want to stay clueless to the problems in game. i know a lot of people want to help make this a better game and are willing to take the time to make this a better game and become a better players. knowing what hacks are in game and how they are used will do just that.

Ait'al · 2013-05-19, 12:30 PM

I'll give you a hint. If you kill all the bacteria in your body you will die... Pretty much sums up why they aren't stopped. The other reason is laziness. The old reason. The new reason!! Not much more too it. Hackers have never been the enemies of game developers. Neither have any of the other things people demonize today. Only problem is we don't have a fluent environment anymore for development. Or they would all be helping to make games like they used to. But society and stupidity go hand in hand so what can you do!!??

What you want is society becoming healthy again. But fat chance. 8)

BTW everything that is called evil today in games were all spawned from game development and were to be part of it. That is bots/macros/etc etc. Can't think of many atm. Even what turned into gold sellers. All purposeful parts of game development. Trust me they ain't the real problem. You don't really want them gone. It would be far worse. Less idiots with tools maybe. Then at least they would have to learn which would be productive(Even that is not really true!). But gone no! One day if anything gets better game development will expand in complexity and those things will be put back in. But killing them would be like stomping on a decapitated finger because it fell of and blaming it only to later morn it's death when it's gone permanently because you acted like an idiot and were ignorant!

Rumblepit · 2013-05-19, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ait'al

I'll give you a hint. If you kill all the bacteria in your body you will die... Pretty much sums up why they aren't stopped. The other reason is laziness. The old reason. The new reason!! Not much more too it. Hackers have never been the enemies of game developers. Neither have any of the other things people demonize today. Only problem is we don't have a fluent environment anymore for development. Or they would all be helping to make games like they used to. But society and stupidity go hand in hand so what can you do!!??

What you want is society becoming healthy again. But fat chance. 8)

BTW everything that is called evil today in games were all spawned from game development and were to be part of it. That is bots/macros/etc etc. Can't think of many atm. Even what turned into gold sellers. All purposeful parts of game development. Trust me they ain't the real problem. You don't really want them gone. It would be far worse. Less idiots with tools maybe. Then at least they would have to learn which would be productive(Even that is not really true!). But gone no! One day if anything gets better game development will expand in complexity and those things will be put back in. But killing them would be like stomping on a decapitated finger because it fell of and blaming it only to later morn it's death when it's gone permanently because you acted like an idiot and were ignorant!

hmmm tell that to Realtime Worlds , creators of APB. It was released on 6 June 2010. On On 16 September 2010 Realtime Worlds announced APB servers were to be shut down.On 11 November 2010 online games company, K2 Network, purchased APB for £1.5 million.

fastest flop in the history of online gaming. failed do to the overwhelming amount of hackers.

i made this post over a year ago.
2012-03-14, 07:15 PM [Ignore Me] #56
Rumblepit
Sergeant Major

Re: Free-To-Play

"your gonna see aimbot, gps,radar,boneshot/headshot,and maybe more.

free to play makes good money... they got that right..... they make bank off free to play over seas.... This is because in some of the countries , where free to play dose the best it is illegal to hack.... you hack, your fined and or arrested. so of course free to play will do well . but in the states and other countries where nobody give a ratsass if you hack so it dose not do so well. the problem is there will be nothing to stop them from making accounts over and over and over again. sure you can have top notch anti hack defense and active admins , but they will keep coming back.ALL SKILL BASED F2P GAMES HAVE HACKERS. SOE will have a budget setup just for hackers and hack defense. well what happens when there are just to many or they wont stop making new accounts???nobody at soe is going to take a pay cut because ps2 has hackers in it. community goes to shit, pop drops, game dies.

we dont know the details of their free to play model. i hope its more like a free to trial with limited access to the world and weapons. if not i hope they have premium servers.

if not i got a friend over seas whos gonna hook it up with a ss number,dob, address, pretty much anything i will need to get on a hack free server."

community has already gone to shit, pops have already dropped, next???game dies. i would like to avoid this.

Ait'al · 2013-05-19, 01:22 PM

That would have meant they were shitty programmers. Doesn't really mean anything. That is traditional in programming. You have to learn something about ethics in engineering and programming to what is required to do the work to a satisfactory level. if it dies from hackers, specifically, it shouldn't be there and shouldn't get a dime! Plane and simple. Ironically alternative ways to pay for it by learning other crafts is a great way to make money and gain the skills to program soundly or proficiently! 8)

Go study engineering for 10 years and come back. you'll figure it out. You don't need to be panicky about it all. And nobody is new to any of it.

You aren't helping anyone. And lay off the steroids. They make you overly aggressive and stop you from thinking clearly. That does not mix with computers... It's the exact opposite.

BTW programming and engineering are properly eat or be eaten environments. That is because of the work ethic that needs to be involved in both. Unfortunately, especially with so many tools today, it's not that hard to program stuff. So you don't get to see it as much and some people think they can escape it without developing the proper knowledge and skills to deal with all of what there is to with programming. They lose in the end, learn, and grow. Or they give up. It's up to them. But it is the required process. If it's not happening, then you need to worry!

Rumblepit · 2013-05-19, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Ait'al

That would have meant they were shitty programmers. Doesn't really mean anything. That is traditional in programming. You have to learn something about ethics in engineering and programming to what is required to do the work to a satisfactory level. if it dies from hackers, specifically, it shouldn't be there and shouldn't get a dime! Plane and simple. Ironically alternative ways to pay for it by learning other crafts is a great way to make money and gain the skills to program soundly or proficiently! 8)

Go study engineering for 10 years and come back. you'll figure it out. You don't need to be panicky about it all. And nobody is new to any of it.

well dose SOE have shitty programmers? if so ,shouldn't we be more inclined to help out and do our part?

Rumblepit · 2013-05-19, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ait'al

That would have meant they were shitty programmers. Doesn't really mean anything. That is traditional in programming. You have to learn something about ethics in engineering and programming to what is required to do the work to a satisfactory level. if it dies from hackers, specifically, it shouldn't be there and shouldn't get a dime! Plane and simple. Ironically alternative ways to pay for it by learning other crafts is a great way to make money and gain the skills to program soundly or proficiently! 8)

Go study engineering for 10 years and come back. you'll figure it out. You don't need to be panicky about it all. And nobody is new to any of it.

You aren't helping anyone. And lay off the steroids. They make you overly aggressive and stop you from thinking clearly. That does not mix with computers... It's the exact opposite.

if your here to troll be gone,if i wanted to here from a azz id go take a dump, stay on topic or dont post at all.

stop staring at my guns lol, your creeping me out. i dont swing that way kido.
construction foreman/ bouncer. im sorry if your jelly, dont you lift bra???? lmaooo
see i can do it too.

also if you didnt read the other 2 threads about this topic, you maybe kinda lost. sort of a 3 part series .

p0intman · 2013-05-19, 01:30 PM

hey rumble, if chip closes this PM me. I've got space available on my site if you want to actually out hackers as a public service to the community. I also give no fucks.

Rumblepit · 2013-05-19, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by p0intman

hey rumble, if chip closes this PM me. I've got space available on my site if you want to actually out hackers as a public service to the community. I also give no fucks.

i was hoping there was a way to do it here, huge player base to view the information would be a great start, but i may have to take you up on that offer, and im greatful for it

. i was looking over all the forums rules and there is really no way to go about doing it without breaking any rules.

basti · 2013-05-19, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

End result is a finely tuned BS detector.

Must be broken then, otherwise it would run wild whenever you open your mouth.

Sorry dude, but your a fool. A gigantic one. You dont understand anything about hacking, not even the slightest thing.

What you attempt to do here is not helping, its making things worse. ALl you archive is making people hyper sensitive about potential hackers, calling everyone and everything that kills them a hack. They quickly get overwhelmet by all the "maybe" hackers and leave the game, spreading the word about how full of hackers the game is, even tho thats completly not true.

Happend to another game already, guess wich one: EXACTLY! A FUCKING P B!

Dont get me wrong, it was bad in APB, but never as bad as people described it. Its people like you, fools who dont understand a thing and just want to act like they know shit, that fucked up the whole situation, causing loads of potential players to never pick the game up.

So lets get this straight on what the right thing to do is: You shut up, all of you, forever about hacking.

When you see a hacker or someone who you think could hack, you use the usual ways of reporting him.

You do not post about that guy anywhere else. Not a single word, nothing. You keep it completly silent, the only guys who ever hear from it are the devs, because they are the only guys who need to know, nobody else.

The result: Bans etc stay exactly the same as they are. Hackers hack and get banned, ususal business, nothing you guys could do would change anything there anyway. BUT! Hackers just lost their main source of enjoyment: your tears. Thats what a lot of hackers are after, a whining community. Take that away, and theres nothing for them to archive. You still have some folks hacking, you will always have that, but a good chunk of hackers just goes on to a game they can actually crush.

And thats, ladies and gentlemen, is how you deal with the problem. Tell the guys who need to know about it, and not yell it into the faces of some random guys on the streets.

LeilaniRock · 2013-05-19, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by basti

Must be broken then, otherwise it would run wild whenever you open your mouth.

Sorry dude, but your a fool. A gigantic one. You dont understand anything about hacking, not even the slightest thing.

What you attempt to do here is not helping, its making things worse. ALl you archive is making people hyper sensitive about potential hackers, calling everyone and everything that kills them a hack. They quickly get overwhelmet by all the "maybe" hackers and leave the game, spreading the word about how full of hackers the game is, even tho thats completly not true.

Happend to another game already, guess wich one: EXACTLY! A FUCKING P B!

Dont get me wrong, it was bad in APB, but never as bad as people described it. Its people like you, fools who dont understand a thing and just want to act like they know shit, that fucked up the whole situation, causing loads of potential players to never pick the game up.

So lets get this straight on what the right thing to do is: You shut up, all of you, forever about hacking.

When you see a hacker or someone who you think could hack, you use the usual ways of reporting him.

You do not post about that guy anywhere else. Not a single word, nothing. You keep it completly silent, the only guys who ever hear from it are the devs, because they are the only guys who need to know, nobody else.

The result: Bans etc stay exactly the same as they are. Hackers hack and get banned, ususal business, nothing you guys could do would change anything there anyway. BUT! Hackers just lost their main source of enjoyment: your tears. Thats what a lot of hackers are after, a whining community. Take that away, and theres nothing for them to archive. You still have some folks hacking, you will always have that, but a good chunk of hackers just goes on to a game they can actually crush.

And thats, ladies and gentlemen, is how you deal with the problem. Tell the guys who need to know about it, and not yell it into the faces of some random guys on the streets.

+100000000!!

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EvilNinjadude · 2013-05-19, 03:41 PM

Ow. Okay. While that may be right, I still admit that I learned a lot about hackers from him, and I don't regret it. But taking into account third parties, I'll shut up now.

Shogun · 2013-05-19, 04:01 PM

basti wins, time for a close

Rumblepit · 2013-05-19, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by basti

Must be broken then, otherwise it would run wild whenever you open your mouth.

Sorry dude, but your a fool. A gigantic one. You dont understand anything about hacking, not even the slightest thing.

What you attempt to do here is not helping, its making things worse. ALl you archive is making people hyper sensitive about potential hackers, calling everyone and everything that kills them a hack. They quickly get overwhelmet by all the "maybe" hackers and leave the game, spreading the word about how full of hackers the game is, even tho thats completly not true.

Happend to another game already, guess wich one: EXACTLY! A FUCKING P B!

Dont get me wrong, it was bad in APB, but never as bad as people described it. Its people like you, fools who dont understand a thing and just want to act like they know shit, that fucked up the whole situation, causing loads of potential players to never pick the game up.

So lets get this straight on what the right thing to do is: You shut up, all of you, forever about hacking.

When you see a hacker or someone who you think could hack, you use the usual ways of reporting him.

You do not post about that guy anywhere else. Not a single word, nothing. You keep it completly silent, the only guys who ever hear from it are the devs, because they are the only guys who need to know, nobody else.

The result: Bans etc stay exactly the same as they are. Hackers hack and get banned, ususal business, nothing you guys could do would change anything there anyway. BUT! Hackers just lost their main source of enjoyment: your tears. Thats what a lot of hackers are after, a whining community. Take that away, and theres nothing for them to archive. You still have some folks hacking, you will always have that, but a good chunk of hackers just goes on to a game they can actually crush.

And thats, ladies and gentlemen, is how you deal with the problem. Tell the guys who need to know about it, and not yell it into the faces of some random guys on the streets.

hes right, im wrong , there is no where near as many hackers in game as we think,i suck and i scream hacks every time i die.all hackers will get banned by the admins, and they should remove the /report feature altogether, so noooobs like myself cant report legit players over and over again.

diarrhea from the mouth of a clueless player is all read there.your whats wrong with this game and your acting a fool, and you need to stop while you still have what little rep have left.
if you dont want to contribute to this thread , DONT READ IT, DONT POST IN IT. nobody cares what your opinion is on the matter.

fyi i beta tested and played abp until they took it down.hyper sensitive players towards hackers didnt cause the game to flop. it was the hackers lol

just wondering what f2p games you played before this??? me? war rock, full of hackers, combat arms full of hackers,cross fire full of hackers. tf when it went f2p full of hackers.

i have had more hackers ban then most have ever seen. where do you get your extensive knowledge of hackers from?
ive seen it all kido, opk, 0 delay, svp, gps, chams,esp, wall hack, rear tele hacks, warning hacks, closest threat hacks,bone shot, invis bs, i could go on for days. stay clueless , who needs ya.

also you just gave me a great reason to make a account on miller, hope to cya in game