Why SOE and PSU need to send out mass emails about the free time.

[Logit]

I think it's only logical that the main focus for this site and SOE is Planetside 2.

I would love as much as anyone for there to be a resurgence into the original, but I'm not holding my breathe. There are currently game breaking bugs that would easily ward off a large population if they were to come back.

Just imagine how bad the wasp problem would be with more people. It's not as simple as just sending e-mals. They would need to take time out of PS2 development and resources to fix a game that is making them zero dollars.

SOE is a business. PSU is a business. I'm sure you can see why both parties would be less inclined to sink time into a game that will almost assuredly die off without any consistent support(which we are most definitely not getting.)

My advice is to enjoy it for what it is. If we get any help a long the way it's an added bonus. I think this weekend we will see some nice populations, enough to make it at least feel like the old days.

To ask why SOE and Hamma aren't doing anything to support us is a little unfair, as the answer is quite obvious.

[MasterChief096]

Originally Posted by Logit

I think it's only logical that the main focus for this site and SOE is Planetside 2.

I would love as much as anyone for there to be a resurgence into the original, but I'm not holding my breathe. There are currently game breaking bugs that would easily ward off a large population if they were to come back.

Just imagine how bad the wasp problem would be with more people. It's not as simple as just sending e-mals. They would need to take time out of PS2 development and resources to fix a game that is making them zero dollars.

SOE is a business. PSU is a business. I'm sure you can see why both parties would be less inclined to sink time into a game that will almost assuredly die off without any consistent support(which we are most definitely not getting.)

My advice is to enjoy it for what it is. If we get any help a long the way it's an added bonus. I think this weekend we will see some nice populations, enough to make it at least feel like the old days.

To ask why SOE and Hamma aren't doing anything to support us is a little unfair, as the answer is quite obvious.

I don't buy it.

Most PS1 vets, especially vets who quit a long time ago, aren't playing PS2 either. Asking them to come back for this six months via email would not only build interest in PS1 again, but also PS2, especially if PS1 becomes a part of the PS2 payment plan.

[Logit]

Originally Posted by MasterChief096

I don't buy it.

Most PS1 vets, especially vets who quit a long time ago, aren't playing PS2 either. Asking them to come back for this six months via email would not only build interest in PS1 again, but also PS2, especially if PS1 becomes a part of the PS2 payment plan.

Why would people being invited back to PS1 create any interest in PS2? Clearly people know the sequel is out, and are just choosing not to play it.

I'm just playing devils advocate here man, but you need to look at it black and white.

How much money will PS1 bring SOE? I can't imagine they aren't currently losing money on it.

Let's say 5000 people came back, and lets say they all paid a 5$ fee from a PS2 joint subscription. That's not even enough to pay a single dev to oversee the game. I think 5000 is a VERY generous number, as the actual number is currently a few hundred at best.

I love this game, I certainly do, but I'm also being realistic.

[MasterChief096]

Originally Posted by Logit

Why would people being invited back to PS1 create any interest in PS2? Clearly people know the sequel is out, and are just choosing not to play it.

I'm just playing devils advocate here man, but you need to look at it black and white.

How much money will PS1 bring SOE? I can't imagine they aren't currently losing money on it.

Let's say 5000 people came back, and lets say they all paid a 5$ fee from a PS2 joint subscription. That's not even enough to pay a single dev to oversee the game. I think 5000 is a VERY generous number, as the actual number is currently a few hundred at best.

I love this game, I certainly do, but I'm also being realistic.

Because if PS1 was part of the PS2 payment plan, then more people would be coerced into playing PS2 as well.

How many players still play Everquest? SOE made it free-to-play and tons of people still play it. Is SOE going to give Everquest the same treatment when EQ3 comes out?

[Logit]

Originally Posted by MasterChief096

Because if PS1 was part of the PS2 payment plan, then more people would be coerced into playing PS2 as well.

How many players still play Everquest? SOE made it free-to-play and tons of people still play it. Is SOE going to give Everquest the same treatment when EQ3 comes out?

Everquest had 19 expansions, and 30x the following

And PS1 won't be part of the pricing plan. Smed already said F2P, which will make the game unplayable without any outside support for hacking.

[Ghodere]

I suspect an announcement may be made when it goes F2P, and the 6 months are just a quick fix to let people get into PS1 somewhat in the meantime.

[Hamma]

I'm out of town visiting family for a week or so. Ill talk to some folks and see if SOE is doing some kind of notification and put something together for psu as well. Ill try to get to it while I'm away.

Also some brought up some good points. I don't want to spend a ton of time on PS1 myself because I feel it's a game that's done. Those who don't like ps2 won't start playing it due to PS1 :P

[MasterChief096]

Originally Posted by Hamma

I'm out of town visiting family for a week or so. Ill talk to some folks and see if SOE is doing some kind of notification and put something together for psu as well. Ill try to get to it while I'm away.

Also some brought up some good points. I don't want to spend a ton of time on PS1 myself because I feel it's a game that's done. Those who don't like ps2 won't start playing it due to PS1 :P

1) Thanks

2) I have outfit members who play both, some like PS2 better, others like PS1 better, but they play both, so I do think it would generate interest for each.

I think there is room for both games. People like to argue that there isn't, but the difference between PS1 and PS2 is like night and day. One is more inclusive, less hardcore, appeals to wider casuals who game for an hour or two, then log off. PS1 is a more hardcore game, has nothing in common with the tactics of PS2, is a bit more on the strategic end, and, ultimately, requires far fewer players than PS2, especially since there is only Gemini.

I'd play both too, provided PS1 a little bit more, but that would be more incentive for me to spend in PS2 since I wouldn't be putting as much time into it.

3) Even if you think the game is done, there are hundreds right now who don't think it is, and who don't want it to be either. There is still a community of PS1 players to support, and one of their last refuges is this website.

From a business perspective I don't think anyone expects you to market PS1 like its better than PS2 or something, just not ignore it, if you catch my drift.

I doubt anyone really thinks you should be posting PS1 news updates and what not, but this is a different deal, 10 year anniversary, six months free (maybe, I'm hearing rumors that not all accounts actually got flagged, but idk), yatta yatta.

Anyways, even if bring players back to PS1 won't generate interest in PS2, it will still mean more revenue for SOE if they do decide to make it F2P with some sort of payment options. Something is better than nothing, and since they already said that the server costs next to nothing, it would be, for the most part, spare change in the pocket.

What this whole issue really comes down to is whether or not the folks here and at SOE think that a couple thousand people who really want PlanetSide 1 to retain an active player-base for its last server are worth the effort.

If we aren't worth the effort, then I would rather just hear the news from SOE themselves instead of having a carrot in front of us all this time with promises of F2P.

We aren't fighting tooth and nail for PlanetSide 1 because we want PS2 to lose all its players and get shut down.

*Note: I think people also tend to read my posts quickly and have this sort of "pissed off guy" voice in their head. I really hope that isn't the tone that's coming across in my words. Its hard to decide what mood someone is in on an internet forum based off of text alone sometimes.

So if I've offended you Hamma I apologize. I'm just a proponent of keeping PlanetSide 1 around, nothing more, nothing less.

My ideal vision for the game is simple: I hope that the game remains at a stable population hovering at about 200 people per empire online during weekday prime times with around 300 on the weekends. That's a poplock and a half per empire, which provides ample room for great 2-way fights and good enough room for all sorts of outfits to do their thing, and it provides an experience quite different from PS2 and anything else out there.

[Logit]

Originally Posted by Hamma

I'm out of town visiting family for a week or so. Ill talk to some folks and see if SOE is doing some kind of notification and put something together for psu as well. Ill try to get to it while I'm away.

Also some brought up some good points. I don't want to spend a ton of time on PS1 myself because I feel it's a game that's done. Those who don't like ps2 won't start playing it due to PS1 :P

Thank you hamma.

I think if nothing else. With enough community intervention, at least in the next 6 months. The word could be spread on a completely free event for everyone to come back. It's a like a HS reunion. No one really WANTS to go..they just do and end up hacking some bases and takin some land.

Appreciate any help we can get!

[capiqu]

I hope you do and thank you Hamma.
There are a lot of old players that have not kept in touch with Planetside. I think of the 200 most active players of HMX-1 just about 10 have played PS2. Planetside being 10 years old it's quite possible that a good one third of ex PS players are in their late twenties to late thirties and most of these probably aren't into gaming anymore.
Hopefully a mass email may bring some back. Sure know of a lot of good people I would like to see back.

[Furber]

Hamma that would be very generous of you, you would have my gratitude. Planetside 1's Vet population is still pretty low, a lot of old players (I would say the vast majority) are still unaware of any of this free stuff. The new players (mostly PS2 players come to try out PS1) have been needing guidance, the lack of Vets and generally organized players is hurting the game, particularly the TR.

[OpolE]

I definitely think there's enough people out there who would gladly become honourable players in PS1 again. To make a regualar fight!

[AdvancedDarknes]

I'm all for it too. My bro in law and a buddy of his who've played longer than i have had no idea. Only because they gave up on PS2 and i just happened to log in to see what was new and saw the happy anniversary PS1 link.

I only just barely decided to click it.
Right now i'm trying to find the emails of all my outfit members so i can spam them personally.

[Crator]

Also, it seems like not many PS2 players know they actually have free time. That's because the forum post on official forums says that only PS1 accounts got free time as well as there being no e-mail telling people they have it too. Not everyone reads forums...

The latest lattice additions to PS2 are very good as well so many might be having fun just playing PS2 to take the time to go check out PS1 also....

[ChipMHazard]

Still a bit fuzzy on who got the 6 months. PS2 members and those who had/have a PS1 subscription, correct?