MeanWhile Free 2 Play are struggling, PAY 2 WIN Players are doing this with resources

[Assist]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

Don't worry I destroy Pay 2 Win players with my weapons.


Just imagine if I had decent amount of resources instead of starving.


Sorry but Pay 2 Win players have a huge advantage...Trying to deny with your sarcasm is pretty sad.


I remember back when PS2 was announced to be F2P, nobody wanted it to be P2W....Now people have accepted the P2W since it benifits them.

Just because you say it's pay2win doesn't mean it is. I don't think it is and I think if you had a poll most would agree it's not. Paying doesn't mean you win and not paying doesn't mean you lose.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by Assist

Just because you say it's pay2win doesn't mean it is. I don't think it is and I think if you had a poll most would agree it's not. Paying doesn't mean you win and not paying doesn't mean you lose.

So is not Pay 2 Win for people to have all their resources full ASAP so therefore they can buy more tanks,planes,insta kill mines,etc.



Sorry but that is Pay 2 Win...You are paying for a SafetyNet...You are paying to be careless.




Just because the game 1 vs 1 situations arn't pay 2 win (I can kill any paying player 1 vs 1)....doesn't mean the game isn't pay 2 win.

Their is an obvious pay 2 win with the resources system.


According to ur logic LoL should give paying players more gold per second......along as u can kill champs by being free player

[MrMak]

Its like arguing with little child here.

"PAY 2 WIN"

"So he has a bigger stocckpile of mines......I can still shoot him......does not require me to particularly more skilled....just not walk into a frigin mine.....its not Pay 2 Win. Pay 4 Convenicanse at most. Besides a Free player can do pretty much the same thing by just conserving resources and stocking up on what he needs when he needs it. And its not like he can deploy all those 14 mines at the same time."


"No! He has infinite mines PAY 2 WIN! Im right ur wrong!"





Pay 2 win means a SIGNIFICANT DIRECT ADVANTAGE IN DIRECT COMBAT where players of comparable skill will almost always loose. Having more mines in your puch hardly qualifies.


Heck i have no bossts or a subscription and even I sometimes do what that guy did.

But fine repeat your mantra untill you get bored. We have to deal with one guy like that every week or so it seems.

[Phantomdestiny]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

Don't worry I destroy Pay 2 Win players with my weapons.


Just imagine if I had decent amount of resources instead of starving.


Sorry but Pay 2 Win players have a huge advantage...Trying to deny with your sarcasm is pretty sad.


I remember back when PS2 was announced to be F2P, nobody wanted it to be P2W....Now people have accepted the P2W since it benifits them.

am i the only one that can't take some one seriously with such an obnoxious character name ? also maybe people would listen to you if you spoke more calmly instead of trying to psedo-insult the devs . really using the word starving for your resource pool , i think you are overreaching your statements here think about people are starving irl before you start speaking like you are right now. From what i see from your outfit your 2 kdr isn't helping your outfit at all so grab a medic gun and stop whining about your lack of grenades .

[Obstruction]

you should quit crying because of your troll name. it's just sad. everyone here is laughing at your anger.

let's examine this statement though:

Before I use to get resources just fine playing normally without farming...Is been these changed with the resources that has screwed over Free players.

so maybe he's spamming maxes still and expecting to buy the same amount of consumables. i mean that's the only change to infantry resource that happened.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by MrMak

Its like arguing with little child here.

"PAY 2 WIN"

"So he has a bigger stocckpile of mines......I can still shoot him......does not require me to particularly more skilled....just not walk into a frigin mine.....its not Pay 2 Win. Pay 4 Convenicanse at most. Besides a Free player can do pretty much the same thing by just conserving resources and stocking up on what he needs when he needs it. And its not like he can deploy all those 14 mines at the same time."


"No! He has infinite mines PAY 2 WIN! Im right ur wrong!"

Paid for Convenience LMFAO.

Paid For Convenience is Certs...Yeah u can buy sidegrades,slight upgrades,options....

But guess what you need resources....so u need to choose on which option u want!!!

That is if you don't buy resource boost...Otherwise, you can just buy everything u want lol.

Is pay 2 Win man.


Like I said is like League of Legends, giving more gold per second to paying member.

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by Phantomdestiny

am i the only one that can't take some one seriously with such an obnoxious character name ? also maybe people would listen to you if you spoke more calmly instead of trying to psedo-insult the devs . really using the word starving for your resource pool , i think you are overreaching your statements here think about people are starving irl before you start speaking like you are right now. From what i see from your outfit your 2 kdr isn't helping your outfit at all so grab a medic gun and stop whining about your lack of grenades .

What dev did I insult?....lulz.


2.5 k/d ratio helps my empire a lot...I actually advance positions meanwhile my team is busy being afraid.

[Assist]

Originally Posted by Phantomdestiny

am i the only one that can't take some one seriously with such an obnoxious character name ? also maybe people would listen to you if you spoke more calmly instead of trying to psedo-insult the devs . really using the word starving for your resource pool , i think you are overreaching your statements here think about people are starving irl before you start speaking like you are right now. From what i see from your outfit your 2 kdr isn't helping your outfit at all so grab a medic gun and stop whining about your lack of grenades .

Should look up some of his posts from the official forums. Not sure if he's still at it, but basically anything non-TR needs to be nerfed because it's incredibly overpowered. Some of the stuff he mentioned is quite literally identical across all three factions.

[Mastachief]

Originally Posted by Dreamcast

Fun Fact......XP Boost help you gain resources super fast....trust me I know since I had used Xp Boost before.


BTW He had +80 XP bonus.....NC had a high population.

Safe to say he has subscription which gives u resources boost/Xp Boost.


Thus this is the reason he has almost all infantry equipment maxed out at 40.

He is paying 2 win.

Nope hes playing to win. Regardless of subscription if you fight for a long time you struggle to maintain stock of infantry stuff. If you fly or drive and are not particularly good you will struggle with vehicle resources. People who subscribe simply do not need to put as much time in or have to focus fights in certain areas it does not however effect the direct 1 v 1 scenario. But then i don't expect someone that plays around 20minutes a day to understand that.

It is not pay to win its pay to save time and effort.

[Maarvy]

Its always been pay to win , someone who buys weapons has 1000's more certs than someone who uses there certs to unlock them .

Bieng starved of resources must suck , and you cant realy deny that if your paying you get a distinct advantage . But at this point its pretty clear that neither SoE or the Ps2 community in general give a shit since most of them are paying players .

The Cert refund debacle pretty much proved this to be the underlying truth , when soe gave 10,000's of certs instead of station cash refunds and the majority of the community were happy to just STFU about it because they were due a pile of those certs too .

Don't expect any sympathy here crying Pay to Win .Its hard to see the light when your head is stuck so far up sonys arse .

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by Assist

Should look up some of his posts from the official forums. Not sure if he's still at it, but basically anything non-TR needs to be nerfed because it's incredibly overpowered. Some of the stuff he mentioned is quite literally identical across all three factions.

Is funny because a lot of my ideas actually turned out to be put in game.


Also all my post were back in the day, and a lot of the things I said were very true at the time.


Anyways is obvious what you are doing.


Trying to discredit me because you don't like the factual evidence Im providing of Paying Players getting benefits to win


I know you like the game but is sad how ur saying is not Pay 2 Win, just to make the game look good lol.

This is a great game and I recommended to any Free Player because it is fair in 1 vs 1 engagements....but prepare for the obvious pay 2 win with resources.

[MrMak]

Originally Posted by Assist

Should look up some of his posts from the official forums. Not sure if he's still at it, but basically anything non-TR needs to be nerfed because it's incredibly overpowered. Some of the stuff he mentioned is quite literally identical across all three factions.

Oh oh let be gues.

NC Bolt action sniper rifles are OP! They 1 shot headshot while the TR ones dont! Same with NC Shotguns!

VS Sniper rifles are hitscan and have no drop!


Something along those lines?

[Dreamcast]

Originally Posted by Mastachief

Nope hes playing to win. Regardless of subscription if you fight for a long time you struggle to maintain stock of infantry stuff. If you fly or drive and are not particularly good you will struggle with vehicle resources. People who subscribe simply do not need to put as much time in or have to focus fights in certain areas it does not however effect the direct 1 v 1 scenario. But then i don't expect someone that plays around 20minutes a day to understand that.

It is not pay to win its pay to save time and effort.

20 minutes a day wtf? lol..

People who subscribe have a safetynet and have can take more of chance.


Here is a scenerio for you

1 vs 1....Practically equal players....Tank vs Tank...One of them is free 2 play, the other is Pay 2 win.

The F2P player kills P2W Player....Pay 2 win player spawns a tank, kills F2P Player...

The Pay 2 Win player will always have a direct advantage to the Free 2 Play player.

Resources = Power....No other way to put it.

Certs are convenience.

[Qwan]

LMAO I remember back before the release they said PS2 was going to be F2P. Guys were like yeaaaa, awesome, that’s so cool of SOE. Guys I’m going to type something and you might get a little upset about it. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FREE TO PLAY. There is YOU CAN PLAY FOR FREE BUT YOUR NOT GOING TO ENJOY IT and there is, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO ENJOY THIS GAME YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO PAY. Ok so let drop the F2P and replace it with PFFBYNGTE, come on guys you can’t be that nieve. Me I pay my sub, and I get a 7 day xp boost, my XP stays at 100%+ (depending on the cont pop). I knew when they came out with this F2P model it was going to cost more money than just my sub I would pay back in PS1, is it worth it Yea cause I love PS2. See P2P is cheaper for your average gamer, were F2P rakes in the dough for the developers, P2P 13$ or 15$ a month full access to everything, no extra cash required, were as F2P you have two options grind, or spend a little extra cash to get it faster, O and if you want something cool like cammo or a mask grinding won’t get it, you have to pay for that. And I like SOE's explanation for this, "we want to give our gamers options", want to give me an option, give me a P2P option and access to everything. But to keep it plain and simple, No one does anything for free in this business, so please stop lying to yourselves, and get a sub, it’s a nice boost in xp and resources. If you think you’re just going to log in and grind out some certs and buy everything your either delusional or have no life. I’m an Auraxium member, and stay with a xp boost, my C-4, mines, and Grenades stay at 40, but then again I’m a PS2 junky. ....

[Ruffdog]

Pay with time or pay with money. Nothing is free bro