The Best Faction: An explanation of lore and a question.

[ForTheRepublic]

Originally Posted by Feyyore

As I heard from an NC player yelling during a major TR/NC battle:

"Join the NC! Our Corporate backers pay better! :P"

Yes the TR are strict. But they brought peace for how many years? Things went wrong. Some people broke, got paranoid, panicked and made bad dicisions. But the Corps grew tired and found a crack in the seams and gave it a good hard shove.

The VS I have no issue with. They just want to be left alone to work on their stuff. Good for them.

And remember. Back on Earth all was fine and dandy.

The VS originally wanted to be left alone, but now they want to enforce their beliefs upon everyone else, and "reach enlightenment". Sounds hardly logical to me.

[capiqu]

The TR kept peace and prosperity for hundreds of years. But the rich with their conglomerate and greed hired mercenaries to destabilize the Terran Government. If there was marshal law it was because of the NC. They started the war. Now the VS went crazy on Arauxian weed, started seeing visions and started following some Vanu deity. Try figuring them out.

Anyway Long Live The Republic.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by ForTheRepublic

The VS originally wanted to be left alone, but now they want to enforce their beliefs upon everyone else, and "reach enlightenment". Sounds hardly logical to me.

Yeah, this is the part of the lore I just don't get...

I understand the bit about the Vanu Sovereignty wanting to achieve 'enlightenment' or become 'transhuman' or whatever. They are scientists after all, have received messages from the alien god Vanu himself and have been working with alien technology found on Auraxis for almost 200 years.

But when it comes to the point that they turn into a hyper-aggressive faction who suddenly want to force their views on everyone - it doesn't make sense. Violent, war-thirsty scientists - really?

If they're so advanced technologically, why don't they just try and make a space fleet and bug out of Auraxis, colonise their own world? What's the advantage of fighting a long and mostly pointless war on Auraxis?

It would make sense if the Terran Republic or New Conglomerate had attacked them first and tried to destroy the Vanu Sovereignty before they could react. That would piss them off enough to start a war. Alternatively, maybe they had become so radical that they now saw humanity as 'sub-human' (or 'sub-Vanu' maybe is better ). Either way, this is not at all explained in the official stories.

There is a hole in the lore, and the VS backstory doesn't make sense.

Sonny

[BlaxicanX]

I think religious extremism is a pretty realistic motive for war. Interestingly enough, Planetside 2 does a fair job at covering the three most basic and common reasons that we have for war in real life:

- Nationalism.
- Greed.
- Religious extremism.

At the end of the day it's all about power, but those three things are usually the catalyst for which wars start, and it's all represented quite well. The TR want control, the NC want money and the the Vanu want... whatever they think their God wants.

[Ghoest9]

Originally Posted by BlaxicanX

I think religious extremism is a pretty realistic motive for war. Interestingly enough, Planetside 2 does a fair job at covering the three most basic and common reasons that we have for war in real life:

- Nationalism.
- Greed.
- Religious extremism.

At the end of the day it's all about power, but those three things are usually the catalyst for which wars start, and it's all represented quite well. The TR want control, the NC want money and the the Vanu want... whatever they think their God wants.

or

Security
Freedom
Purpose



There are 2 sides to every coin.

[BlaxicanX]

That's totally true, yah.

A little moral depth never hurt anyone.

[synkrotron]

I was brought up NC. My parents were both very much a part of the New Conglomerate. So, perhaps I was brainwashed as a child because I would never consider converting to either of the other factions.

And, it's not just about the money... honest...

[Blynd]

I was vanu in ps1 and have stayed with both my empire and outfit since then.

"technology = might "

[Blynd]

I was vanu in ps1 and have stayed with my empire and outfit since then. 7 long years of fighting thise smurfs and baboons

Technology=might

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Yeah, this is the part of the lore I just don't get...

I understand the bit about the Vanu Sovereignty wanting to achieve 'enlightenment' or become 'transhuman' or whatever. They are scientists after all, have received messages from the alien god Vanu himself and have been working with alien technology found on Auraxis for almost 200 years.

But when it comes to the point that they turn into a hyper-aggressive faction who suddenly want to force their views on everyone - it doesn't make sense. Violent, war-thirsty scientists - really?

If they're so advanced technologically, why don't they just try and make a space fleet and bug out of Auraxis, colonise their own world? What's the advantage of fighting a long and mostly pointless war on Auraxis?

It would make sense if the Terran Republic or New Conglomerate had attacked them first and tried to destroy the Vanu Sovereignty before they could react. That would piss them off enough to start a war. Alternatively, maybe they had become so radical that they now saw humanity as 'sub-human' (or 'sub-Vanu' maybe is better ). Either way, this is not at all explained in the official stories.

There is a hole in the lore, and the VS backstory doesn't make sense.

Sonny

They have to win two alerts in a row to build their space ship. So they won't be leaving any time soon.

[Artimus]

TR: Peacekeepers or Tyrants
NC: Terriorists or Freedom Fighters/rebels
VS: fascist or brainwashed

The Views of the three factions can go both ways.

[almalino]

Originally Posted by Artimus

TR: Peacekeepers or Tyrants
NC: Terriorists or Freedom Fighters/rebels
VS: fascist or brainwashed

The Views of the three factions can go both ways.

In other words:
TR: Good or Bad
NC: Bad or Good
VS: Bad or Bad

Glad I didn't chose VS

[Oty]

Originally Posted by ForTheRepublic

*facepalm*
The TR is NOT authoritarian. That's kind of one of my main points. They're probably the most free of the factions. It'll all up to the people, but these NC feel that, for some reason, their ideology works better than democracy. As for the VS, well... they're barely human. They're the most fascist of all.

Well here is the problem you have to face. If you look at the lore it is all almost exclusively written as dairies, personal notes, letters or recollections by individuals. As any historian will tell you, this is not sources to be trusted since they are biased.

If you start picking apart and analyzing the different texts you start finding statements that hint towards this and that.
Looking closer att TR from the prospective of the letters you can find the following:
-yes, back on earth people seem to have flourished under TR command, this is likely

- Connery suddenly gets an urge to explore the other side of the wormhole, as the founders of NC are talking about, may he have hidden intentions? May he be under the influence of Vanu? you can see hints of this in one of the t connery holovids.

- when connory dies in the Discovery-7 incident the TR gets new leadership, however it is not clear that their intentions are as honest as connerys. there are hints of a conspiracy and even though the fleet only contains 40.000 people, which is a very small number, anyone responsible for the attack is never found --> it is possible that it is TR command that staged all this.

- Finnaly there seems to be around 200 years of curfews and martial law after the TR is established on Auraxis indicating quite harsh ruling by the government.

- whit that said, the TR established on Auraxis seems to have little or no incommon with the repulic back on earth.

However from a strictly Republican point of view, which I ofcourse firmly hold, any and all of the above mentioned points are completely false and formulated by the traitors that plot against our Pecefull and fair rule over this planet that is rigthfully ours.

[ForTheRepublic]

I think the message here is; Be patient. What went wrong with the TR is that they expected people to be patient. What went wrong with the NC is that all the good NC people got blown up and they won't be patient. What went wrong with the VS is that they shifted their views to radical fascism. I still side with the Republic, in hopes that we can get this technology under control, these rebels crushed, and these ships back to Earth.

[synkrotron]

Originally Posted by ForTheRepublic

these rebels crushed

Never, I say. N E V E R ! ! !