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Old 2003-04-24, 09:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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The NC AI max big weakness is the pathetic range on that gun of his.. outside he is just AV fodder, inside is another story though. The NC AV max though is way better than the grief machine TR AV max. The sparrows will hose infantry once you wear down their armor, plus it's an AV weapon that shoots relatively straight. The VS AI max though is a great all around max, it has sweet range and it does a lot of damage to other MAX :/
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Old 2003-04-24, 09:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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I don't know about you, but I have seen a fair amount of em. Not as much of them as Vanu MAX. It seems like every vanu has a MAX, wich makes my job as an infiltrator hard. After a long fight with the Vanu, I didn't even bother with a pistol, just loaded myself down with as many grenades as I could carry. Worked pretty well to. Does anybody know wich grenade is better against armor, the frag or the plasma?
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Old 2003-04-24, 10:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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i saw a dozen or more NC MAXs in the Crater on Searhus (Beryl Server).

Dang, indoors, those things are brutal against infantry. I'm nasty. If I can catch them outdoors, they're mine. I run into them inside, I gotta pray that they're hurtin, cause i'll have enough time to maybe get a single shot off, maybe two of my striker.

But going through some heated three Faction battles in Searhus last night, i am beginning to feel that all three Factions are truly balanced.

And can I say I (as a TR) officially fear the Vanguard. If that tank has air support, just run and side and wait. Going outside is death. Last night, NCs did a great job of protecting one Vanguard tank with 2 misquitos and 2 reavers. The instant I fired a striker at the vanguard, two gunships swoop in at me. The instant i fired at an airship, the vanguard fired at me. I'm not callin' for a nerf at any level. a tank should not be destroyed by a single infantry soldier, it was a wonderful challenge. I'm glad there was only just one. whew... i do look forward to the days of open tank battles, they're coming. i can feel it.
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Old 2003-04-24, 11:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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And that my friend is why i've decided to join the nc.It seems to me the nc are the ONLY empire using there tanks...BTW i don't like the vanguard as you get the cert for it and can only drive it welst sum dude get's to fire cannon 8((
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Old 2003-04-24, 11:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Originally posted by Cyanide
<- Constatly owns NC maxes with his Vanu AV max (even inside).

The NC max is pretty much crap. It's shield is almost totaly worthless. Vanu maxes are by far the best maxes in general the own all outdoors and can hold their own inside.
What he said ^

I constantly get owned by the vanu max's, and i never see Any max's for m3h NC. i think they need to pump them up a little bit. i've NEVER seen a AI NC max, the shotguns are worthless in this game. and i've seen quite a lot of AV max's and a few AA's i'm going to get an AV one after i get my adv. hacking but they are definately worthless when going up against a vanu/tr max
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Old 2003-04-24, 11:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Does anybody know wich grenade is better against armor, the frag or the plasma?
I don't have the beta, but I would think the plasma would be more damaging because it'll still do damage after the initial explosion. But don't take my word on it
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Old 2003-04-24, 12:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Originally posted by thegame109
And that my friend is why i've decided to join the nc.It seems to me the nc are the ONLY empire using there tanks...BTW i don't like the vanguard as you get the cert for it and can only drive it welst sum dude get's to fire cannon 8((
The tank driver has the best weapon on the tank... the front bumper. Run over people!
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Old 2003-04-24, 01:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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The NC MAX's shield is no joke. They can take quite a beating. I also see plenty of NC MAX's.

There are, however, plenty of new players in NC MAX's that have not found a good way to play them yet. Half the ones I meet stand still and fire as fast as they can. Why one would ever try to do this in an NC MAX is beyond me. It must be some gut reaction they learned in another game. Thus, they have gimped themselves by their actions. They take their special ability out of the equation and don't move to place themselves in their kill zone. Then they complain how a TR or VS MAX are owning them. Well if the 3 MAX's are balanced then you should expect to die when the enemy uses his special ability and fights in his element while you do neither.

And BTW the plethora of Vanu MAXs could be interpreted as either A. their MAXs are super powerful or B. their infantry weaponry is below par, thus making a balanced MAX the best available option.
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Old 2003-04-24, 01:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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I think that with NC having the best anti armor, I can see them having the worst max in a normal battle, means you have to think about things....
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Old 2003-04-24, 03:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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What are all you guys smoking? I picked up a scatter cannon max (NC) right of the bat and was owning everything in my way. That included TR and VS maxes in a fair fight. If they had some cover or something i was screwed, but it went the other way too. If I got the cover, were as good as dead. In my oppinion the NC scatter cannon max is very powerful. Especialy at close range. By switching spreads, I can even get some kills at long range.
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Old 2003-04-24, 03:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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I am a TR, and I have to admit, I love the TR AI Max indoors, but it seems to get owned by other Max's. For some reason in close combat I get dominated by other max's when both at full armor. Lockdown is uselss in close combat, the time it takes to lock will make u lose half your armor, and then the damn people just run behind u so u cant turn. So I gave up locking in 1v1 Max Combat at close range. Plus it makes you a sittin duck, and you cannot strafe around targets to make them aim a little harder. And without lock down 1v1 TR Max's get destroyed outdoors and indoors. However, if you are defending with a TR max, say a CC, with you back to the corner, where no one can get behind you, lockdown is godsent. The only problem is that AV weapons seem to be your worst enemy when people can run behind walls and doors. You then have to unstick to chase em down, or else you are toast. I am not calling myself a pro, and saying this max doesnt work right for me so it sucks, I am just saying I don't see the TR max being the best max in the game. From my experience fighting max's one on one, I have to give credit to the VN max which seems to have better accuracy and more agile. I only switch to my max now when defending and find myself more often assulting a base with my Reinforced Exo with Special Assult.
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Old 2003-04-25, 10:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Right on Jaged. I have no idea where this anti-NC MAX mentality came from, but its not from the NC im sure. I myself use a Scattercannon MAX, and completely tear other MAXs and infantry to shreds. Other Scattercannon MAXs Ive talked to say the same thing. That shield does have a purpose - flip it on, switch to run mode, and get in the enemies face. It absorbs virtually all damage. Once your face to face with someone, that shotgun truly shines, and you can kill enemy MAXs with 200-250 armor left.
The Terrans seem to hurt much more than their Vanu counterparts.

If anything, theyre too powerful.
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Old 2003-04-25, 12:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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You'll usually find me in the NC AV Max. I tear through infantry and Maxes with no problem, both indoors and outdoors.
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