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Old 2003-05-08, 11:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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So does anyone know if those Jammer Grenades work? I thought they said that they do but, I've not used them but, not against taking one with me at the sacrafice of a couple mines or maybe some other folks would like to start carrying some so I can loot them .
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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What really ticks me off is that almost no one uses NC maxes, whereas there are fifty jillion TR and VS maxes. I can only carry so many damn rockets.
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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I killed a max with a knife(with some help of course )
and got 3 in a row with lancer. Oh yea you gotta take in consideration that they can only get one every so few minute.
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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MAX are fine, they trade off nice armor & dmg for a total lack of versatility. They cannot hack, cannot reapir, cannot heal, cannot gunner, cannot drive. And trust me, Lancer (VS AV weapon) shreds them big time! About 4 shots-- so 4 secs tops.

The solution of course is to have more soliders with AV weapons OR more soldiers in MAX.
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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ya , they are a little powerful
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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I don't have too many problems with MAXs. I just learn to not bite off more then I can chew. If I see 2 MAXs, I hide. If I see 1 MAX in all by himslef, I will try to get behind him and unload my cycler on him. Yeah it takes forever, thats why it is a good thing that they have really sucky mobility. I littereally circle strafed one to death with my cyclers AV rounds. When all was said and done, he was dead, I was a little banged up, and I had barely any ammo left. They are tuff to deal with, but not in need of a huge nerf. In my opinion, they should leave it as deadly as they are and just make Reinforced a prerequisite for all MAX suits. That way it makes it a little harder to get ahold of but nothing that will really "nerf" the MAXs. I don't want the big blokes to go the way of the dinosaur, they provide me with great cover!
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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I have taken about 4 or 5 maxes out without AV weapons too. But those were some dumb maxes. and if you took one out with a shotty, He must have been REALLY STUPID. It takes 9 AP shells to take one down. That's about 10 seconds to empty the drum of shells, then a 2 or 3 second reload, and then another like 3 seconds of shotting. Anywho, if you want to give examples, i have one too. I took out 2 reinforced guys with AP miniguns down with my sparrow. Wow. This game should revolve around more that maxes. And right now, if you play it right, it really doesn't have to. 1 or 2 AA maxes, then half AV and half AI maxes, and then a few hacker/engineers, and you're unstopable. It would take a bunch of people in vehicles and AV guns like pheonixes to take your group down, probably more people than in your squad. Not to be a cocky punk, but none of you seem to play a lot. And if you do, then you're either a big ass leet, or a max slut yourself
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Indeed they do make awesome cover, but sometimes they don't seem to last long enough. Ah well, perhaps I'll get my cert in anti-vehicular weaponry and start trashing those suckers with missiles. Or maybe a vehicle, running does suck after all...

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Old 2003-05-08, 11:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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Decimator, the anti-max


Yes, its true that MAX owns when everyone is a low BR infantry.

Considering how easy MAX is to get, and that 2x or 3x points are needed to combat them effectively, they are very good in the opening weeks of a server, like now.

That said, when your heavies are all multi-specced with special assault/reinforc/medica/engy certs, the maxes are not nearly so scary.

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Thumper in mode 2 will bounce grenades off walls, you can dish some serious damage while backing around a corner or flight of stairs with a bouncing grenade spam

Decimator, although very tricky to hit with, will pop open a max like a can opener. Max is a 2-shot to decimator, every single time, no questions or exceptions. My pre-wipe heavy had 2 launchers at all times, and sometimes carried 4 in vehicle heavy or max heavy surroundings.

Maxes are fantastic at straight combat, but give up flexibility. When 95% of the population is below BR10, they are giving up nothing at all, making them appear even tougher than they already are. However, when the BRs crawl up a bit, say around 15 its a different story.

AV to soften up MAX at range, 2x heavy infantry with decimators and random people to distract/damage max. The difference for the flexible well balanced squad is that they can heal, fix armor, sometimes even rez, then plod on like the fight never happened. Even if you die, if your small grp of 3 max hunters lays even 1 decimator on a max, it is now a 1-shot for the next guy.

Sure, MAX are a challenge, no denying that. I'm now playing a support char and I miss my decimators more than any of the weapons I've used. On the other hand, there is nothing better than catching a max looking the other way, first decimator to get their attention, second one right down the front grill for the most satisfying kill in the game, imo.

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Old 2003-05-08, 11:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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i think all of you have yet to deal with max rushes. Having more than about 6 of them rush your base is insane. And sometimes people will just drop them onto bases. It's almost impossible to stop.
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Old 2003-05-08, 11:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Zetre.. there will be NO Nerf for MAXes.. they're fine the way they are.
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Old 2003-05-09, 12:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Here's the other drawback for most MAXs (I know we VS have a fast ass MAX). If the enemy is over-running your base to the north place a group to offer token resistance. Send other to capture another base to the south or send several squads to multi hack several bases at once. For as godly MAXs may be at fighting they can be a bitch to transport sometimes especially with only Sunderers and Galaxies able to transport them.
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Old 2003-05-09, 12:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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hmmm,, that's a cool strat dude. That deserves a grand aplause. But hife deserves to be bitch slapped by ms. cleo. Dude, you're not a dev, and you're not a psycic. You don't even have beta hife. Please, either make intelligent posts on here, or go away
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Old 2003-05-09, 01:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #29
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The fact of the matter is, there is a counter for every weapon/armor in the game if you are smart enough to use it. Infantry with a suppressor against a AI MAX=Dumb. Reaver vs. AI MAX=Smart. Indoors? Decimator + surge > AI MAX. I think that the writer of this post simply gave up and didn't try any other methods or other methods available to his squad mates. I have walked up to a base where the entire 2nd tier was filled with enemy soldiers in standard armor, no MAXs no tanks. I posted up and opened fire. How many did I kill? 0
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Old 2003-05-09, 01:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #30
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i think their armor is good to be, high, its why ppl shoudl use them, but then they have super chain gun, i think TR maxes are too tough
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