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Old 2002-12-19, 08:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #16
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I agree omega, i think the real difference from a newbie to a fully experienced vet is that instead of relying upon others for transport/heavy arms/scouting, you are the one being relied on.
As you gain experience i dont really see people changing all of the sudden and their ego's growing 10 fold, because if you've been cooperating with others for the whole time you've been advancing you wouldn't find any reason to change because its going to be most successful and fun way to play.
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Old 2002-12-19, 08:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #17
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i believe the first few certs shuold be cheap, but as you go higher they should get more expensive(to a limit)...


so someone who just starts out can get medium armor, 1-2 weapon certs, (or 1-2 piloting certs), maybe allow 1-2 more and they'll be ok...

but I do agree someone shouldnt be able to obtain mass amounts of certs either...
 
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Old 2002-12-19, 10:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #18
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The certs all cost a different amount of points, some 2, some 3 - and it will probably change before closed beta
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Old 2002-12-19, 10:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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how 'hard' is it to get 2-3 cert points? it require several BEP levels? or do you get like 2 points/level? just curious how difficult it will be to get that 'next' cert on your list after spending starting certs..


again i know you cant give solid answers on numbers.. just want a general idea for difficulty
 
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Old 2002-12-19, 10:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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Yea I dont have enough solid info to comment on exact numbers.

I would assume after x amount of BEP's you advance to the next level in battle rank. With that battle rank comes x number of cert points.
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Old 2002-12-19, 10:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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theres 20 Battle rank levels aye? and 5 command levels?


think there'll be 2-3 points(~1 cert) per battle rank level?
 
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Old 2002-12-19, 11:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Old 2002-12-19, 01:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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Omega: There's always people like that in MMOG's tho. I know guys who were playing DAOC who had 30 days of play time in the first 45 days the damned game was out. I was thinking about crafting for the guild I was with, and was informed that our current crafters were putting in 14-17 hours a day, and I had to match that.

Give me a break.
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Old 2002-12-19, 01:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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those people must no have a life
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Old 2002-12-19, 05:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Man, don't hope for certs costing more BEP. The quicker we all get to BR 20 the quicker we are on even footing. Let the 24/7 gamers do their thing and don't worry about it, you'll get there too, then you can layeth the smack down upon them. Just don't wish for anything that gives em even more of an advatage! This game will be nice because you will have to actually have some skill to do well. Unlike EverCrack, DAoC, and whatever other RPG games are out there.
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Old 2002-12-19, 05:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Holy postage batman. I swear some of you forum whore 24/7!
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Old 2002-12-19, 05:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Why should we care how long it takes anyone else to get maxed on certs? Certs don't make you a badass; Skill, twitch reflex, and a good connection/hardware do. That day-one newb with his shotgun can still blow the back of your helmet off. Anyone who goes around proclaiming how uber they are instead of fighting isn't really that dangerous, and being rank 20 isn't going to save them when the shrapnel flies.

Even if you could rank up real quick, how can you ruin it for anyone else? It doesn't restrict anyone else's capabilities or equipment selection. You can't talk shit to your enemies because there is no inter-faction chat. You can't grief kill because repeatedly slaughtering the other guy is the core gameplay mechanic. How can the no-lifers be a problem?
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Old 2002-12-19, 06:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Well by having more certs than someone does give you an advantage depending on what certs you have applied. If you're a rank 20 you also have all 3 implants. How often in ranks do you get implants btw? Pure skill isn't going to be the only thing you need in this game. I imagine that you will have to depend quite a bit on the abilities you gain from your certs.
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Old 2002-12-19, 06:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Certs give you options.
Implants give you advantages.
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Old 2002-12-19, 06:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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More options than someone else = advantage.
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