Clans invited to play beta early! [Unconstructive whining will be deleted] - Page 20

Karmic Revenge · 2012-06-13, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by Malorn

Please be so kind as to post all of the dev comments on the subject.

As I said it boils down to : "we tried to get a variety of people with community involvement from across FPS games involved."

All you do to get there is take Higby's reddit statement which I know you have read, and the original message sent to Snipefrag, then decipher the English language.

Maybe you need things spelled out for you, but the language is clear. The First Platoon was formed in order to give specific people who are either PS1 leaders of outfits or community sites, or those who lead the community in other games via clans or streaming and the like, access to the forums for a bit of advanced discussion.

All of that is in Higby's explanation.

The deductions made from the manner in which Snipefrag was approached are fairly logical. They are selecting people who have influence (he's an outfit leader for a PS1 outfit with a fairly large headcount) and are doing so in a flattering manner so as to up their chances of getting people involved in the process.

The fact that you're asking for every little word to be spelled out is simply making you look as if you do have a great sense of entitlement. We all have our thoughts on who should be in a tight group giving feedback. I can think of a few people from my outfit who absolutely deserve the chance to be in that first group. None of them are. This does not hurt my butt.

Beta, like Winter, is coming.

Relax and wait for it.

Karmic Revenge · 2012-06-13, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Lol they invited Cham, somebody to test the levels of dougebaggery you can do in PS2.

But lol i would never expect an invite, Australian, action on my account, in elitist PS1 outfit, never gonna happen.

Personally I'd prefer if no elitists got in at all.

Elites, sure.

But not elitists.

SKYeXile · 2012-06-13, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Karmic Revenge

Personally I'd prefer if no elitists got in at all.

Elites, sure.

But not elitists.

ah dur, thats why i said its never gonna happen.

jepaul · 2012-06-13, 06:52 PM

I'm obviously late to this party but is the bottom line that some people are getting into the Beta before others? Or is there something I'm missing here?

I don't have a list of who all is in first platoon but I would think it is organized communities with a history of large organized play that run a good looking managed website. I could certainly be wrong though.

So what are peoples actual problem with this besides people getting in before them? I don't what the issue could possibly be other than someones feelings getting hurt?

Help me out here I'm obviously missing something.

megamold · 2012-06-13, 06:52 PM

edit : nm got my answer

Hmr85 · 2012-06-13, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by jepaul

I'm obviously late to this party but is the bottom line that some people are getting into the Beta before others? Or is there something I'm missing here?

I don't have a list of who all is in first platoon but I would think it is organized communities with a history of large organized play that run a good looking managed website. I could certainly be wrong though.

So what are peoples actual problem with this besides people getting in before them? I don't what the issue could possibly be other than someones feelings getting hurt?

Help me out here I'm obviously missing something.

It ranges from people who's 3peen got hurt on not getting in with the first platoon to Excitement that closed beta has "possibly" started.

Karmic Revenge · 2012-06-13, 06:56 PM

Well, there's actually no confirmation that it HAS started though.

There's confirmation that some people are able to talk in a closed group on the official forums about PS2's development.

We can make the assumption that those people will certainly be getting into beta as part of the first group.

We cannot say that others NOT in that group won't be, however.

maskedskull · 2012-06-13, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Hmr85

It ranges from people who's 3peen got hurt on not getting in with the first platoon to Excitement that closed beta has started.

That does sum it up very well from where I'm standing

Vanir · 2012-06-13, 07:01 PM

SUBARU · 2012-06-13, 07:09 PM

I would think SOE, Would want someone on the team ,who has written hours of stuff about PS.Including The Planetside Manifesto (Malorn) Instead of some EQ,WOW player
We all know what the mmo people want, pvp gear,and raid bosses.Yea that feedback is what i want
This isnt about me ,I wouldnt even pick me for that list.But their are a handfull of guys that have been around since day1,and have been giving soe good ideas over the years. Think they need to be on the list too

Luieburger · 2012-06-13, 07:10 PM

http://kotaku.com/5917860/planetside...yer-compromise

As I played through a decisive battle for strategic region of one of the game's tri-colored continents, I forgot I wasn't playing on an enclosed map. A beta player shouted instructions through the headphones as we fought for control of three bases in a red and rocky desert setting, guiding us to our objectives and deploying backup where needed.

Ummmm? Does the writer know something that we don't, or did he just get it wrong when he said "beta player"?

PsychoXR-20 · 2012-06-13, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by jepaul

I'm obviously late to this party but is the bottom line that some people are getting into the Beta before others? Or is there something I'm missing here?

I won't speak for others, but my biggest concern is that by bringing in people from other games, with no background in PlanetSide they will be missing key feedback on what made PlanetSide a unique experience. Bringing in a bunch of CoD fanboys, or Battlefield fanboys, then seeing the feedback that "dis gaem roks!" isn't useful at all for crafting a PlanetSide experience. bringing in people with a long history of PlanetSide, then seeing feedback like "the gameplay is way to fast, there is no ability to strategize because the battlefield changes to quickly" is far more useful.

People are going to go into this with the mindset of whatever game they come from. CoD players will want to see the game play far sped up, and will probably only care about kills, Battlefield might be right at home, whereas PlanetSide players will probably want the game slowed down and are more interested in secondary objectives like generators. And while PS players wanting the game slowed down is equivilant to CoD players wanting the game sped up, this is PlanetSide, not CoD, so their feedback should be considered more valuable.

I am obviously biased towards wanting PS2 to play and feel more like PS1, and by bringing in lots of non-PlanetSide players, they run the risk of turning the game into an MMO CoD.

Karmic Revenge · 2012-06-13, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by SUBARU

I would think SOE, Would want someone on the team ,who has written hours of stuff about PS.Including The Planetside Manifesto (Malorn) Instead of some EQ,WOW player
We all know what the mmo people want, pvp gear,and raid bosses.Yea that feedback is what i want
This isnt about me ,I wouldnt even pick me for that list.But their are a handfull of guys that have been around since day1,and have been giving soe good ideas over the years. Think they need to be on the list too

I think SOE want the TF2/COD/BF people to play, and will as a result offer some leaders in those communities some input.

I think that if you think about it hard enough, you too will realize that YOU want those people playing PlanetSide 2.

Because the more people that play and the more successful the game is the more support it will get, and that includes future development.

Karmic Revenge · 2012-06-13, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Luieburger

http://kotaku.com/5917860/planetside...yer-compromise

Ummmm? Does the writer know something that we don't, or did he just get it wrong when he said "beta player"?

The internal testing that SOE is doing could very well have been what he was referring to.

They had people playing from San Diego during E3.

Zar · 2012-06-13, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Karmic Revenge

I think SOE want the TF2/COD/BF people to play, and will as a result offer some leaders in those communities some input.

I think that if you think about it hard enough, you too will realize that YOU want those people playing PlanetSide 2.

Because the more people that play and the more successful the game is the more support it will get, and that includes future development.

ill take the bf and tf2 people but cod kiddies can stay out i love planetside dearly and those mouth breathing 12 year old's will ruin what is imo the best game in the world >.< cod is what is wrong with fps games of late they are living off a name and even their fan boy's are starting to see it XD