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Old 2012-07-20, 09:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #331
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Re: the sad realization...


Originally Posted by AgtPanda View Post
blame the stupid hackers
the people that use them are stupid, but the people that make them are actually quite smart
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Old 2012-07-20, 09:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #332
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the people that use them are stupid, but the people that make them are actually quite smart
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Old 2012-07-20, 09:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #333
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Why do you make so many pointless threads? Shutup, please.
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Old 2012-07-20, 09:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #334
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That's because VAC isn't meant to be an insta-kill every hacker system. It works on delayed banning, but when you get games with dedicated servers and you join a server that's actively admined, it's not so much of a problem.

Problem is, Call of Duty, decided to do away with ranked dedi's, and therefore the ability to actively admin at all.
I totally realize all of this. That said, PunkBuster probably doesn't need to be an insta-kill either. It's just the way you set it up. That said, PS2 does have dedicated servers, and only that. I was merely stating that VAC is not be-all end-all. Regardless of which solution you choose, you end up with a mix of in-game admins, an automatic anti-cheat scanning system like VAC or PB and game-specific checks.

I am long glad they didn't go with Frost or GameGuard ^^
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Old 2012-07-20, 09:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #335
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Re: the sad realization...


Originally Posted by Braveliltoaster View Post
the people that use them are stupid, but the people that make them are actually quite smart
I'll give you that they're smart... but totally misguided and mostly jackasses for making hacks in the first place. In my book, that makes them WORST than the "stupid" people that use them.
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Old 2012-07-20, 09:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #336
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I'll give you that they're smart... but totally misguided and mostly jackasses for making hacks in the first place. In my book, that makes them WORST than the "stupid" people that use them.
ahh well put I agree
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Old 2012-07-20, 10:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #337
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……hey,If the game is free and you can register an account after getting banned, what's the point of banning??? Also with all those dynamic IP address assignment for residential users, ban IP isn't an option either.

So basically, you can't ban cheaters in Free-to-Play games!

Then what can SOE do? I'm really worried that PS2 will die in a month after launch because of hacking.
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Old 2012-07-20, 10:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #338
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I'll give you that they're smart... but totally misguided and mostly jackasses for making hacks in the first place. In my book, that makes them WORST than the "stupid" people that use them.
Well, yes, technically they're the real criminals here. In most cases they're profiting by making live miserable for people who want to have fun.
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Old 2012-07-20, 11:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #339
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Someone mentioned this in that thread that was linked to, and if it actually happens, I will be so happy. Everyone hates a hacker, so if someone's hacking, tell their team and (hopefully) they'll teamkill them to s**t. I really do hope this ends up happening.
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Old 2012-07-20, 11:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #340
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Why do you make so many pointless threads? Shutup, please.
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Old 2012-07-21, 12:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #341
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Considering the size of the game it would be likely hackers will end up on opposing forces. Perhaps they will end up fighting each other. Never actually seen more than one hacker on a game, though my experience with pc games is probably far less than the majority of you.
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Old 2012-07-21, 02:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #342
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Has Higby at ALL commented on this? I'd love to hear what he has to say about using such a dated and weak system to defend his creation....
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Old 2012-07-21, 06:14 AM   [Ignore Me] #343
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Just wait for the murder hacks that will be out before beta is even finished.

Just wait for the "Murder" Sentences that will be spoken out from Judge's - aside that some Hacker's should "really" just get their Fingers chopped off. *Cough Cough* : )

If some little, sorry "Software-Terrorist"-Twat's really wanna know it, People should let them taste all Hardships the Law can bestow.


At some Point, even my Patience just runs out. In the Past, i had played any kind of "Game" now without using Cheats and Hack's - since my whole Life. And if some Scum, (yes really. S.C.U.M. ) thinks he can piss into other People's Free Time and their Work 'AND' the Work of other's,

they should really prepare for everything that could happen to them and their Life's.
Some People really seem to see "dignified" Action's and Handling of modern Justice towards Criminal's as Weakness, right?

At some Point and in some Case's, the incredible "Rancidness" of some People really provoce's ugly, unsightly Thoughts of Measures against them.
Year for Year now, i hear again "and again and again" from Hacker's who try to ruin other People's Fun for good.


I may get banned or warned for this Post, but i guess some People are only then satisfied if other's break and cripple their Hands to some Extent, are they?
Honestly, my Patience for such... ... "People"... ... runs out slowly. And the only things that protects their Body's Intactness is the Fact that i have no Opportunity to get them in my Hands. ^^#




greetings, a slightly pissed off LV.

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Old 2012-07-21, 06:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #344
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To be honest, the hackers have less incentive to hack as the servers are far fewer than a normal game such as bf or cod. So any admin looking at the server can quickly spot a hacker from the rest of the legit players, I don't/ hope this isn't a problem in PS2
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Old 2012-07-21, 06:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #345
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In PS1 mods run around invisible.
If they suspect you, they stab you with a knife and see whether you get wounded.
If you are lucky they heal you.
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