Democrats Move to Secure Loss in 2004 Presidental Elections - Page 3

Navaron · 2003-01-21, 04:50 PM

I realize that Bush signed it hopin the SC would shoot it down, but that's damn risky. I wouldn't trust them farther than I can throw them. The analogy was also for people who are pro CFR or think it's a good thing.

Sputty · 2003-01-21, 04:54 PM

Ys I am from Canada and I may vote Communist as a joke. The liberals have failed me and the other parties are too...religious..for me...And I hate the separatists. Can Hamma start a Canadian political party called CanadianPolitics-universe? I have no one to vote for....THEY ALL SUCK..

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-21, 05:08 PM

Whoa there Mr Viccho.

You seem to be missing the poiint of this discussion that had to do with the election. There is a big difference beteen truth and political process.

You may have all these explanations why Bush isn't responsable for the economy, however that isn't going to do shite in an election.

The democratic adverts are going to compare the economy when Clinton left office and when Bush's term is up, period. How will that make Bush look. That is what the average voter is going to see.

You can say the enron thing was happening during clintons administration (this type of thing has been happening for decades), however the voter saw it blow up during Bush's administration.

You can say Bush and Cheaney were not found guilty of any crimese but does that mean the voter will feel nothing wrtong was done?

We were not discussing enron, we were not discussing the details of campaign finance reform, and we are not discussing the economy. We were talking about why democrats have a real chance at winning in the election.

MrVicchio · 2003-01-21, 05:15 PM

Liquid Lex..

You miss something Fundimental here... The Voters are not sheep to be herded by the Liberals. You say what the Dems are gonna do.. and you say it like the the Republicans can only sit ont he sidelines shaking thier heads and admit defeat...

I say the Voters are more then capable of making up thier own minds when presented bith sides of the issues. The days of sheep voters is rapidly dimminishing part in thanks to the internet. That is a good source of information for the average voter to look to to find the Truth for themselves. Out and Out lies, deceptions and half truths wont have the same polarizing effect they had 20 years ago... People are MORE then capable of finding the truth for themselves.

Anyone that just hears a political ad and believes it is a sheep and shouldn't vote. Anyone that doesn't bother to research the claims of any group, is a sheep and shouldn't vote. I don't care if after you have looked at all the information and decided DNC over RNC.. thats fine, but atleast look at the facts. And the FACTS are on the Republicans side on all the issues you have brought up... Thats what I am saying.

I trust people, do you?

Sputty · 2003-01-21, 05:18 PM

I don't. Most people are too stupid too pcik a smart guy. That's why all the presidents are super friendly now. "In-touch" with the people seemingly.

Unregistered · 2003-01-21, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
..........We were not discussing enron, we were not discussing the details of campaign finance reform, and we are not discussing the economy. We were talking about why democrats have a real chance at winning in the election.

You were correct right up until the point you said "We were talking about why democrats have a real chance at winning in the election", which if you read the title of this thread is the exact opposite of what we are talkiong about.

We are talking about how Al Sharpton has no chance in Hell of winning the election, but like most democrats you have derailed the real issue and turned it into the complete opposite of what it is.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-21, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered
You were correct right up until the point you said "We were talking about why democrats have a real chance at winning in the election", which if you read the title of this thread is the exact opposite of what we are talkiong about.

We are talking about how Al Sharpton has no chance in Hell of winning the election, but like most democrats you have derailed the real issue and turned it into the complete opposite of what it is.

My off topic message was an attempt to stop this train before it left the station.

So are you really in the mood for a 10 - 12 page discussion of campaign finance reform, a 10-12 discussion of what really happened with enron Enron, what needs to be changes and Bush and Cheaney's own shady bussiness practices, or a 10-12 page discussion of how Democrats and Republicans have been damaging to music how it was a republican who did the single most damaging thing to music writers and composers in American history?

Sputty · 2003-01-21, 05:38 PM

Yeah, you should probably all stop now and consider that you've all said your points multiple times before and that you have made your position clear. Stop the fight! Peace!

Navaron · 2003-01-21, 05:38 PM

I'm up for pwning some fools in a CFR debate.

Sputty · 2003-01-21, 05:39 PM

Well, I tried...Hmmmm...Better close the shop and board the windows....There's trouble a-brewin'

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-21, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by MrVicchio
I trust people, do you?

No I do not trust people.

Isn't seeing greed as the great motivator, yet believing in the goodness of humanity a bit of an oxymoron?

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-21, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
I'm up for pwning some fools in a CFR debate.

Just bring it.

Unregistered · 2003-01-21, 05:44 PM

Once again your skirting the issue at hand.

This thread is not about Music, Campeign Reform, It's not about Bush or Cheny.

It's about Al Sharpton's bid for the Presidency.

Once again you have demonstrated how the Democrats ignore what is being talked about and pervert every subject into their own little Anti Republican Retoric.

Please get back on Topic and tell me how Al Sharpton: Democratic Party Hopeful will save America, and this time try not to drag the Evil Republicans, and Kenneth Lay into the disscussion. Get your own "How the Republicans will lose the election" thread if you want to impart your flawed thinking on the masses.

I'll point out valid arguments and you can skirt the issues. It'll be fun.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-21, 05:46 PM

Btw I am not a democrat.

Navaron · 2003-01-21, 05:47 PM

If you wanna rumble with CFR (or the so called incumbent protection act), then refute anything I said earlier. We can start there. Or you can cut you losses now, and bow out.