Single shot rifles for classes other than infiltrator?

[Sifer2]

Originally Posted by ShadowDemon

I think it would be nice to have two firing modes for carbines. single/two round burst and full-auto/other setting.

I guess it might depend on the faction you were to determine the settings:

TR: Three round burst and full-auto
NC: Single shot and three round burst
Vanu: Two round burst and five round burst (because they are lasers, no full-auto; Have to recharge)

Well like others are saying its possible they already have these kind of toggles on the current Assault Rifles. But that doesn't really add I think what the OP wanted. Which is unique guns that have this lower rate of fire in general but are more powerful. Basically a more powerful but more skill based infantry rifle that wouldn't be as useful in close quarters. I think there is room in the for both personally.

An while you could do it through attachments/customization potentially that runs the risk of making it hard to tell what your opponent is actually using. It's already bad enough that as a pilot you will never know whether its safe to approach a tank or if it will have an AA turret that will shred you in seconds.

[Durandal]

Yeah i really want single shot more powerful mid range weapons for the lighter classes. LA, Medic, and engineer.

I definatley agree with Sifer, I believe that if they are going to make single shot style carbines, it makes alot of sense to have them use a different gun model so that players can know what types of weapons their opponents are using

[xuur]

maybe something along the lines of a hand cannon. large caliber revolver or other. short range, big recoil, but substantial damage at close range, relatively accurate out to shotgun distance, but you'd have to be decent in aiming it (unlike a shotgun) to really score a vital hit. very hard to do at closer ranges and under pressure

maybe?

[Durandal]

Originally Posted by xuur

maybe something along the lines of a hand cannon. large caliber revolver or other. short range, big recoil, but substantial damage at close range, relatively accurate out to shotgun distance, but you'd have to be decent in aiming it (unlike a shotgun) to really score a vital hit. very hard to do at closer ranges and under pressure

maybe?

No, thats not really what im looking for, more like a covenant carbine style weapon from halo, basically a scope-able medium range single shot rifle that is much less damaging than a sniper rifle, something that does slightly more damage more acuratley from a longer range than a fully automatic assault rifle, provided that you are skilled with it.

[OutlawDr]

Originally Posted by Bravix

I don't know where you're getting your info from, but carbines don't have a lower recoil then their longer-barrel counterparts. If the barrel is short enough that the bullet isn't able to reach a critical velocity, there would be less force sure...but it would be so minor that it wouldn't be worth noting. Especially so if you consider that the loss of barrel length means the weapon is more light-weight, resulting in increased recoil.

tl;dr carbines have MORE recoil, not less then their longer-barreled counterparts.

Well it depends on the exact definition of a carbine (which there really isn't). SMG, Carbine and Assault rifle all have blurry definitions historically and from country to country. Add in PDWs into the mix and it all starts looking very arbitrary. If the carbine is simply a shorter assault rifle, then yes you are right. However some carbines use smaller rounds specifically to reduce recoil and muzzle flash.

Originally Posted by Durandal

No, thats not really what im looking for, more like a covenant carbine style weapon from halo, basically a scope-able medium range single shot rifle that is much less damaging than a sniper rifle, something that does slightly more damage more acuratley from a longer range than a fully automatic assault rifle, provided that you are skilled with it.

You wouldn't really call that a "carbine". If a carbine is anything, its NOT a rifle with more punch, range and accuracy than an assault rifle. Something in between an assault rifle and sniper rifle is a battle rifle.

But again, I don't think its a good idea to give LA (a class with the mobility to quickly find superior position) the ability to out snipe most other classes.

[Durandal]

Originally Posted by OutlawDr

But again, I don't think its a good idea to give LA (a class with the mobility to quickly find superior position) the ability to out snipe most other classes.

And if they do this for this reason i would understand, but from the looks of it no class will have a "battle rifle" type weapon as you call it. The closest that there appears to be is a sniper rifle, which is not what i am looking for.

I would like them to add that type of weapon to the game, weather it be for only medic and engineer that would be cool, i would probably end up playing those classes, because that type of weapon it what i prefer for FPS. I just hope that they DO implement such a weapon regardless of class.

[kaffis]

Trigger discipline. Done. If you want lower recoil, nobody says you have to lean on your left mouse button.

If you're looking for higher damage per shot weapons and then justifying it "but it's not full auto!!!"... well, that doesn't exactly balance very well when full auto has a lot of recoil to deal with. So no, probably not going to happen that way, since the light assault and support classes are just that -- not heavy assault.

[OutlawDr]

Yeah, if there is a M14-type battle rifle, besides the Infiltrator, only HA should probably have access to it.

[Synapses]

I would LOVE to see semi automatic assault rifles added or as an upgrade to the current rifles.

[Durandal]

Originally Posted by Synapses

I would LOVE to see semi automatic assault rifles added or as an upgrade to the current rifles.

THIS

[Vydofnir]

I would guess that through sidegrades you could probably get your assault rifle to behave a lot like a Halo-style battle rifle. If your looking for more of an M14 sort of vibe, the development team has talked about scout rifles in the past (see 27:10 in the video below). I haven't heard anything about them recently, and they might end up being Infiltrator specific as well, but if they make it into the final version they may be close to what you're looking for.

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by xuur

maybe something along the lines of a hand cannon. large caliber revolver or other. short range, big recoil, but substantial damage at close range, relatively accurate out to shotgun distance, but you'd have to be decent in aiming it (unlike a shotgun) to really score a vital hit. very hard to do at closer ranges and under pressure

maybe?

It's kinda beside the topic, but I DO really want a badass revolver for the NC. Something like Jim Raynor's revolver from starcraft...



Anyways, sorry, back to the topic at hand...

[Durandal]

Yeah Vdyofnir, man i completely forgot about that video, yeah depending on HOW powerful the scout rifle is it might be what im wanting, but the high risk high reward makes it seem like it is going to do waaaaay more damage than a battle rifle would.

Also hell yeah Ratstomper, or maybe even one of these hellboy styled ones

[Ratstomper]

Originally Posted by Durandal

Yeah Vdyofnir, man i completely forgot about that video, yeah depending on HOW powerful the scout rifle is it might be what im wanting, but the high risk high reward makes it seem like it is going to do waaaaay more damage than a battle rifle would.

Also hell yeah Ratstomper, or maybe even one of these hellboy styled ones

Ah, That's pretty sweet lookin' too.

[Arkaiden]

Originally Posted by Ratstomper

I think 1-hit kills should be viable for sniper rifles with headshots and also kills from behind with knife certs.

Direction detection is too inconsistent in online games. 1-hit backstabs would create so much rage when it keeps happening to people's faces.