News: GU08 Weapon and Attachment Changes

[HiroshiChugi]

Originally Posted by Falcon_br

I think everyone agree that the gauss saw will finally get the nerf it deserved.

Are you nuts?!?!?

The NC's Gauss SAW does NOT need a nerf. It's recoil is enough to stabalize it. The only reason lots of people have the compensator AND forward grip is because they don't know how to control the massive recoil on it. The high bullet spread is enough of a so-called "nerf" to the weapon, that it doesn't need anything else. In fact, I've beeen contemplating on getting a scope for it for the rare occassions that I DO use i (I seem to be able tobetter control recoil with scopes rather than just iron sights). And this isn't coming from a strictly NC perspective, for I have been up against it PLENTY of times while on my other two alts (who shall not be named and shamed :P).

[ChipMHazard]

Looking forward to seeing the complete changelog... You better give us one with precise stat changes, SOE.

Wonder if I'm going to go back to my TRV now from my TAR.

[Falcon_br]

Originally Posted by Koadster

Falcon, the t5 amc was always usable. It's not a lol-no-skill weapon which is why not many use it. I love it and shud be even better now.

I also use the T5 AMC, but only because I already got auraxium medal with the Lynx, and using both at long range, the Lynx performed better, something they are going to nerf even further with this patch!
I also bet the Jaguar that wasn´t nerfed for long ranges would still be better!
Also, as I said, it you use it and the ns-11c, you will notice that the ns-11c with foregrip and compensator got less recoil them the T5 AMC with adv fore grip and compensator!

Originally Posted by Assist

I read that as the Orion and NS15 getting a buff? wut?

The Orion I don´t know why, the NS15 will get a buff because it was useless to TR players.

Originally Posted by HiroshiChugi

Are you nuts?!?!?

The NC's Gauss SAW does NOT need a nerf. It's recoil is enough to stabalize it. The only reason lots of people have the compensator AND forward grip is because they don't know how to control the massive recoil on it. The high bullet spread is enough of a so-called "nerf" to the weapon, that it doesn't need anything else. In fact, I've beeen contemplating on getting a scope for it for the rare occassions that I DO use i (I seem to be able tobetter control recoil with scopes rather than just iron sights). And this isn't coming from a strictly NC perspective, for I have been up against it PLENTY of times while on my other two alts (who shall not be named and shamed :P).

So, a starting weapon that with all attachments got more damage, more precision, more DPS and less recoil them the enemy starting weapons, really don´t need a nerf?
The foregrip nerf it is just because of the Gauss Saw, it was ridiculous to have lower recoil them almost all weapons of the game because of it. Horizontal and Vertical.
Also they nerfed the x6 scope that will probably end the life of the battle rifles, just because people was using it to snipe with the gauss saw!
I really don´t understand why the gauss saw got more attachments them ALL TR LMGs, since beta I am looking for a TR weapon with compensator and Adv fore grip, but I can´t have both! While the starting NC weapon got both on it!
Now to fix it, they are going to nerf the attachments, instead of just removing them for weapon that shouldn't ´t have it!

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Another good thing that the equip time of the t9 carv will be standard to all high capacity LMG, now people will know how bad it is to start a fight with a rocket and switch to the LMG to finish your target, I got a new pistol just because of that nerf!

Another good point are on the SMG, there was no real point of using the first generation of it, the most strange part it was that on the TR, they both got the same reload speed! Something they will change on the next patch.

Also, people are already discussing that the GU 09 will introduce several new weapons, because everyone knows that when soe nerfs something, it is because in the next patch we will receive a new version of the weapon that works just like the old one did before it got nerfed!

[Assist]

Originally Posted by Falcon_br

The Orion I don´t know why, the NS15 will get a buff because it was useless to TR players.

eh, I actually prefer the NS-15m to the Orion. I agree it wasn't that useful to TR players, but it was a big difference from VS.(sounds are important!)

[HiroshiChugi]

Originally Posted by Falcon_br

So, a starting weapon that with all attachments got more damage, more precision, more DPS and less recoil them the enemy starting weapons, really don´t need a nerf?
The foregrip nerf it is just because of the Gauss Saw, it was ridiculous to have lower recoil them almost all weapons of the game because of it. Horizontal and Vertical.
Also they nerfed the x6 scope that will probably end the life of the battle rifles, just because people was using it to snipe with the gauss saw!
I really don´t understand why the gauss saw got more attachments them ALL TR LMGs, since beta I am looking for a TR weapon with compensator and Adv fore grip, but I can´t have both! While the starting NC weapon got both on it!
Now to fix it, they are going to nerf the attachments, instead of just removing them for weapon that shouldn't ´t have it!

Like someone already stated, it's the initial 600 damage or whatever on the first shot that shocks people. It really doesn't need a nerf or a buff. It needs to stay the same, albeit having both the compensator and foregrip. But seriously though, you're TR. Soldier up and get over it. :P If you really hate going against it that much, just switch to the NC! We're better than the TR and Vanu anyways. :P

[Falcon_br]

Another great change on that patch it is that they finally fix the offset on vehicle weapons!
People will take sometime to get used to it, like what happened when they fixed the reverse movement, but everyone agrees it should be that way since day 1!
So the Reaver pilots that have the best (for great pilots) ESF because of the speed, the advance maneuvers and weapons (air hammer OP!), will finally stop complaining about the nose gun offset they have, something that really didn´t affected good players.
But I am happy, because of them, it is easier them ever to snipe enemy infantry with the prowler, and now the skyguard is one of the greatest anti infantry vehicle on the game! Also, it got much better on anti air.

[Canaris]

Originally Posted by Falcon_br

Another great change on that patch it is that they finally fix the offset on vehicle weapons!
People will take sometime to get used to it, like what happened when they fixed the reverse movement, but everyone agrees it should be that way since day 1!
So the Reaver pilots that have the best (for great pilots) ESF because of the speed, the advance maneuvers and weapons (air hammer OP!), will finally stop complaining about the nose gun offset they have, something that really didn´t affected good players.
But I am happy, because of them, it is easier them ever to snipe enemy infantry with the prowler, and now the skyguard is one of the greatest anti infantry vehicle on the game! Also, it got much better on anti air.

hold the damn universe for a second, did you just say the Prowler guns got centralised or they just moved the camera/crosshairs to the centre of the cannons?

[Falcon_br]

Originally Posted by Canaris

hold the damn universe for a second, did you just say the Prowler guns got centralised or they just moved the camera/crosshairs to the centre of the cannons?

They moved the camera, did that to all vehicles, sometimes you will feel strange when driving then now that we got used to the old style!
But in the end it will be better to everyone!

[Canaris]

Originally Posted by Falcon_br

They moved the camera, did that to all vehicles, sometimes you will feel strange when driving then now that we got used to the old style!
But in the end it will be better to everyone!

oh well I suppose that's still very good, though I was going send the SOE dev's a Melchizedek of Champagne (40 times the size of a regular bottle) if they had moved the cannons to the center.
Guess I'll head down to the harbour and see if a yaht needs to be christened.

[Koadster]

Originally Posted by ChipMHazard

Looking forward to seeing the complete changelog... You better give us one with precise stat changes, SOE.

Wonder if I'm going to go back to my TRV now from my TAR.

TRV has been buffed The foregrip buff has made it as accurate as the T1 almost with 845rof..

Also the Jag is more accurate at range then the T5 AMC.. This needs serious changing! A hipfire based gun is better at ADS at 70meters then TRs long range Carbine

[Fenrys]

Originally Posted by Koadster

Also the Jag is more accurate at range then the T5 AMC.. This needs serious changing! A hipfire based gun is better at ADS at 70meters then TRs long range Carbine

That was true before the patch as well. The Jaguar has been the TR's most accurate long range carbine for some time now, despite it's classification as superior hipfire weapon with enhanced (.75) ADS mobility.

Its still significantly less accurate than the carbines available to NC, and slightly less accurate than VS long range carbines.

[wasdie]

Sounds like some good changes.

[Rahabib]

Originally Posted by Jax Blake

After trying out the changes on the test server you will want to remove the forward grip from all of your weapons if you're one of the ones that switches between weapons often (at all.)

I do not understand what brought this change on but it's just awful.

reducing horizontal max recoil seems great to me. vertical recoil is easy to compensate for, but random horizontal spread isn't. A predictable angled pattern seems great. Ill have to see how bad the swap speed is however.

[ItZMuRdA]

Liking pretty much everything in this list, especially the reload speed/weapon swap speed adjustments and the addition to hold breath, as that was just plain annoying.

[Belhade]

This is why I don't buy weapons. (except by accident) I just use starter weapons with a few attachments.