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Old 2003-12-03, 11:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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This would be horrible, I doubt Sony is stupid enough to do this. Heavy Assault is already requires the most cert points out of every certification in this game.
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Old 2003-12-04, 01:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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I personally think HA is overused. Think about it, HA. You would think that not every other fucking guy out there would have it
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Old 2003-12-04, 01:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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i dont use HA because of the all hate tells i get saying to use a weapon that uses "skill"... so i kill them with my knife in agile no surge, and i STILL get the hate tells saying i cheat and shit, so i think nerfing HA outta the game is good
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Old 2003-12-04, 09:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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I think this is a great idea. Especially for NC. Think about it. You wouldn't be able to get HA until your, BR 6 I think. That basically means no more noobhammer. I love the idea. This combined with surge + weapon = no is very good.
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Old 2003-12-04, 11:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Originally Posted by Vick
No, those are things that you do to be good.

A 7day trial guy can hold fire down and kill some guys, have you not seen those spam whores?
I fail to see why this is a bad thing. The devs even changed the xp system to reward more for kills. At it's core, this game is about racking up kills. The HA weapons are more effective at killing at close range than other weapons. Add those two reasons with the fact that getting kills in the game is alot of fun, and you see why there are alot of HA users, even 7-day trial players. If it's fun to use, wouldn't you want those n00bs to have access to it right away? I want them to get hooked and sign up, not get pissed that they can't kill shit with their br5 char. This game is about having fun, and requiring 9 cert points for HA is anti-fun. If you guys can't see that this would be horrible for the game, then your logic is fubar.
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Old 2003-12-04, 11:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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I'm actually in the ditch all HA camp.

MA is more effective in the open field, but to be honest, that is where vehicles rule, indoors it's all HA and MAX love... I haven't used HA in a very long time, I'm actually certed out of MA ATM but with the tank hunters reforming I gotta get it back to get spec assault.

The thing is a giant battle where most everyone is using MA is a sight to behold. People in cover laying fire advacning slowly. It's the kinda thing that warms the heart. Throw 1/2 HA users in there and you get a whole bunch of guys rushing in to get to effective range, blowing a few rounds of ammo and dying. It was ok when everyone was low BR and HA was not that common but now most everone is at least BR 12 and if your infantry you got HA. It philisophicaly kills the tactics of the game.

That's just my opinion. If there is no ditching of HA then make it that you can't fire and move (or move at a dramatically reduced rate, like in Team Fortress) or even make the HA slightly longer ranged and deployable. But making REXO a prereq is not a solution... get inovative SOE. I believe in you!
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Old 2003-12-04, 12:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Originally Posted by ten twentyfour
I personally think HA is overused. Think about it, HA. You would think that not every other fucking guy out there would have it
it is overused....and maybe if they make it worth 9 certs then it will be a little more scarce. It proves it here that a lot of people would not(could not) use it if this happened. There is suppose to be a variation of weapons used in this game but the majority of people use HA.
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Old 2003-12-04, 07:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Actually, Heavy Assault is not all that common. According to Thottbot only about 33% of all players have it. The 3 certs that are more popular than HA are: Medium Assault (duh!) with 87% uptake, Reinforced Exosuit with 48%, and Engineering (suprised?) with 46%. In fact, almost as many people have the basic Hacking cert as have Heavy Assault, with 32%.

http://www.thottbot.com/planetside/2003-11-30/1/

So once again please, all you HA haters. But without the absurd exaggeration this time.
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