The Oracle of Death, Part II - Page 3

mrmrmrj · 2013-09-25, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by MerlO

Harasser ESAI:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0E&usp=sharing

Marauder pwns.

Plaqueis · 2013-09-25, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by MerlO

Harasser ESAI:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0E&usp=sharing

Rofl.. pattern continues.

maradine · 2013-09-25, 02:24 PM

The Oracle will now respond to all current commands from the PM window so you don't need to do them in the main channel unless you're trying to make a point. Will update OP.

MerlO · 2013-09-26, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by maradine

The Oracle will now respond to all current commands from the PM window so you don't need to do them in the main channel unless you're trying to make a point. Will update OP.

It's been working well, sorry for the spam

Now i've been grabbing MAX data, it's quite a lot and takes a while to tidy up in spreadsheet. Would this be possible from the channel: give the oracle a batch request list - x weapons * y periods, the oracle does some thinking, and then it DCC a space or comma delimited file back?

mrmrmrj · 2013-09-26, 12:51 PM

I really wish the data available to the Oracle tracked slug use in shotguns and MAXes.

maradine · 2013-09-26, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by MerlO

It's been working well, sorry for the spam

Now i've been grabbing MAX data, it's quite a lot and takes a while to tidy up in spreadsheet. Would this be possible from the channel: give the oracle a batch request list - x weapons * y periods, the oracle does some thinking, and then it DCC a space or comma delimited file back?

DCC's a giant pain in the ass, but Roy fronted me a snippet for doing batch posts to hastebin, which I will be adapting and integrating shortly. Today, even, assuming I get the time.

Originally Posted by mrmrmrj

I really wish the data available to the Oracle tracked slug use in shotguns and MAXes.

There's a metric ton of things SOE can't or won't provide - we work the best we can with what we're given.

MerlO · 2013-09-27, 03:47 AM

MAX data!

AI MAX:
NC and TR pretty close considering TR overpop, VS ahead.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Wc&usp=sharing

AV MAX:
Need kills broken down by vehicle/infantry here.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0E&usp=sharing

AA MAX:
Not very interesting...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&usp=sharing

MGP · 2013-09-27, 04:22 AM

I like how Onslaughts are least popular but with highest avgBR and highest KPU. As an Onslaught user myself i feel like an MLGPRO

So many Mercy users... the forumside syndrome. Everyone was yelling "Mercy OP, Mercy OP!". But the truth is - Mercy sux balls.
Yet TR AI MAX being the worst one makes me a little sad.

Edit: Wow, i thought what ZOE was OP, but THIS? Almost twice as good as TR guns!
inb4 random VS guy saying what it's VS PRO SKILLZ.

maradine · 2013-09-27, 12:08 PM

Heh, looks like the cat's out of the bag on Nebulas. Ah well, I enjoyed my hipsterdom while it lasted.

phungus · 2013-09-30, 12:18 AM

Can you use this to check the deaths by a weapon over a time period? I'm interested because I think the lock on changes, after the last hotfix, will show a significant change to stats, reflected by the fact the Striker is no longer so powerful. There were some good arguments (many I made) and data from the Oracle of Death showing the effects of the striker, I'm curious to see how the changes to the striker rockets (no longer clipping through terrain, loses fire and forget ability and instead requires the heavy to maintain lock until rocket hits) change the data from when the Striker was clearly the best at everything launcher.

MerlO · 2013-09-30, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by phungus

Can you use this to check the deaths by a weapon over a time period? I'm interested because I think the lock on changes, after the last hotfix, will show a significant change to stats, reflected by the fact the Striker is no longer so powerful. There were some good arguments (many I made) and data from the Oracle of Death showing the effects of the striker, I'm curious to see how the changes to the striker rockets (no longer clipping through terrain, loses fire and forget ability and instead requires the heavy to maintain lock until rocket hits) change the data from when the Striker was clearly the best at everything launcher.

maradine was going to grab a comparable data set to compare before/after the lock on change

MerlO · 2013-09-30, 12:37 AM

MBT AV Secondaries from 1st week WDS:

Enforcer and Vulcan look close, surprised that Saron is so far ahead..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&usp=sharing

MGP · 2013-09-30, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by MerlO

maradine was going to grab a comparable data set to compare before/after the lock on change

They have already reverted the change/bug on Striker, it's now once again fire-and-forget, like the rest of lockons.

phungus · 2013-09-30, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by MerlO

MBT AV Secondaries from 1st week WDS:

Enforcer and Vulcan look close, surprised that Saron is so far ahead..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...Xc&usp=sharing

The reason it gets more kills is because it is good at all duties, so it dominates. For NC and TR there are alot more heavy tanks (and Harrassers) that pull Furys and Maurders.

This stat though helps demonstrate something I keep trying to explain to people who complain about the Vulcan. The Vulcan really isn't OP when compared to the Saron, they are both great.

phungus · 2013-09-30, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by MGP

They have already reverted the change/bug on Striker, it's now once again fire-and-forget, like the rest of lockons.

Nope, you have to maintain active lock. Just tested it again, I only got hits by keeping the lock, otherwise rocket shot up into the sky and no hit marker or +air defense points.