SOEside - Page 3

Mechzz · 2012-05-14, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kipper

Also, I feel that headlights could be quite necessary for night time fighting... As long as we can cut them for stealthy approaches.

Ohhhh! Headlights, yes!

And I do hope the trusty old horn will make a return, even if only to the cash shop. How much would I pay to get an air-horn tune of my choice? Rights ownership issues aside, that would be fun

Hamma · 2012-05-14, 09:57 AM

mmmm.. Chill Pill. Really calms the soul..

Khrusky · 2012-05-14, 10:30 AM

The main thing about hood ornaments from other games is that it's either lazy or shameless advertising. There's no reason that the artists couldn't have designed a hood ornament that was an original design that looked more aesthetically pleasing than a game logo. Additionally if they start throwing out hood ornaments as rewards for buying other Sony games then that is not okay. If you happen to like another game, I'd rather you didn't wave around a statue of it. Shameless advertising by players for stuff they like shouldn't be allowed. I don't need some guy's tank that I'm trying to repair telling me about the life-changing benefits of the new shamwow. If I follow what the apologists say and simply don't partake in any of this, then basically I have a load of people who I can't help because I don't want to come close enough to them to see their crappy customisation, and that severely hampers a teamwork-based game.

Other people have said that this is minor stuff compared to the other things we accept as normal for the game, but the point they miss is that the things you accept are things with a defined internal logic. They have reasons, regardless of how flimsy they may be. A free realms logo is there solely to jerk you out of your experience, and press some other thing to buy in your face. It's basically the same as cold-calling or someone sticking a flyer to your car and I don't want it in the game, given the choice.

This isn't game-breaking, but it is a completely unwarranted nuisance.

Crazyduckling · 2012-05-14, 10:52 AM

I'll say this: Please. No spoilers. I don't wanna see that on a Vanny. :P

The Janitor · 2012-05-14, 10:59 AM

This game needs hats. That is all.

Kipper · 2012-05-14, 11:06 AM

Honestly, if they put in a Free Realms logo I wouldn't even know because I don't know what it looks like.

If they put in some sword or something from Everquest, I can deal with that, swords are a military type symbol, hell, TR logo is a sword.

You seem to think there'll be blimps flying around with neon advertising slogans on them. I don't think that will happen.

Chances are that stuff will be reasonably subtle and serve the purposes of allowing people to create their own unique look while bankrolling the game.

Shogun · 2012-05-14, 11:23 AM

if we get hood ornaments from other soe games, i will be very very disappointed, if there is nothing from starwars galaxies! the game has died some months ago, but it was a soe game, and it was the best soe game (after planetside of course).
so if soe needs to implement advertizing to their own games into planetside 2, they need to add dead old games as well, or veterans from dead games will feel neglected.

i just hope it´s not a licence problem to use starwars emblems in ps2. soe still owns some sw licence, right?

don´t add kiddy stuff like free realms and leave out the cool stuff!

by the way. some kill-sticker option for your vehicle would be cool. like the kills, movie-pilots put on their cockpit. it would be cool, to have a magrider silhuette sticker on my reaver and everytime i kill one, it gets another scratch beside it.
stuff like that would be worth a buy! funny pics from unrelated games don´t seem apropriate but i would tolerate it, as long as we get some really cool stuff as well.

Striker KOJ · 2012-05-14, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

mmmm.. Chill Pill. Really calms the soul..

Hamma, you look like the kind of guy that's taken quite a few pills and "chilled" in his day

But as far as customization goes, I personally am torn. On the one hand, I agree with the camp that is worried about random objects thrust into a "realistic" setting.

On the other hand, if this game is going to have me hooked for close to a decade like the previous, I think it would be kind of cool to have some outlandish customization. It builds characters. Gives players a chance to distinguish themselves from the rest of the crowd. Allows players to build even that much more of a rivalry. I would not be against a guy in a chicken suit, a la Family Guy. Who gives a damn? I think it would be hilarious.

For those who are concerned about the "lore", do you honestly think if you were stranded on a planet, unable to die, for who knows how many years, you would be worried about your uniform? People are going to get some cabin fevor. It's not like the ultimate winner of the conflict will be decided by which team has the most coheisive uniforms. We're fighting forEVER. Let me put on some Groucho glasses. Who gives a damn? I'm just going to get my head blown in and come back to life again anyway. Let me have some fun for the rest of eternity.

Costumes are going to have no affect on how "skilled" the player is, so who gives a damn how they look. You don't like someone's bunny ears? Put on your Elmer hat a go rabit hunting.

Now clearly, if the game is good, the game is good, and personally I don't NEED costumes to have fun, but I think it would be neat, and if free to play is the way to go, then let SOE make their money.

Sabrak · 2012-05-14, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by elfailo

I'm playing a game set in the far distant future where SOE has long gone bankrupt (or bought out by EA), and in this fictional universe I don't want to be reminded of the games they used to have in the 21st century. It would ruin the consistency of the world for me.

Bitch please!

Haven't you read the lore of the game?

SOE still exists and has diversified.
It is now the biggest armament seller on Auraxis, providing means to kill everyone to everyone under the name of Nanite Systems.

Get your facts straight!

(And by the way, this thread sucks. SOE is gonna release Planetside 2 for FREE, let them add some ads for their others games if they want to. it's not like it's gonna pop-up on half of the screen in the middle of a raging battle.)

Kipper · 2012-05-14, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Striker KOJ

I would not be against a guy in a chicken suit, a la Family Guy. Who gives a damn? I think it would be hilarious.

Dude, LostAlgorithm is going to hunt you down RL and torture you for ruining his free-to-download, free-to-play experience with your paid-for shit.....

Striker KOJ · 2012-05-14, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Sabrak

Bitch please!
(And by the way, this thread sucks. SOE is gonna release Planetside 2 for FREE, let them add some ads for their others games if they want to. it's not like it's gonna pop-up on half of the screen in the middle of a raging battle.)

Honestly, as out of place as the advertisements were in the Sanctuaries, I gotta say they were effective. I will never forget the Old Spice brand of body wash.

"I'm two things in one..." *Whistle*

Xyntech · 2012-05-14, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by LostAlgorithm

I disagree that it's not a big deal right now. It's much more likely that it already has gone beyond what has currently been shown. So I'm simply voicing my opinion on what I think is for the greater good of the game at a time when something might still be done about it.

I'm just slightly shocked at the reaction to what we have currently heard about this is all. Just makes me wonder what the reaction would be towards something more troubling.

Quite frankly, we just disagree, which is fine. Still, I can understand what you are saying about heading it off early.

For me, while it hasn't gotten to the point where it is even remotely worrying, I'm also not sure if I would even complain too much if it did start pushing past where I was comfortable with it. The game will not work as a paid subscription model. The game needs massive numbers, and F2P is the best way to ensure it has those, at launch and long after.

While I will never be okay with soldiers fighting in pink tutus (please, no jokes about our VS fashion sense

), I'm not going to second guess what the company needs to do to make money.

I want to just be able to play the game first and foremost, and for it to be as immersive as possible as a secondary concern. As long as the game doesn't turn into APB: Auraxis, I'll probably be pretty happy.

I say you should keep being a watchdog for things that concern you, but as others have said in the thread, just relax about it a little bit. It's probably worth talking about this and having these discussions, but it's not worth anyone getting too bent out of shape over it.

Also, I didn't mean to be flipant with you. I want you to enjoy the game without it being ruined for you. I just can't feel sympathy for those people who would miss out on the rest of PS2's awesomeness over nitpicking points, but that doesn't mean those nitpicks don't have their own amount validity as well.

Ideally, I wouldn't even put in hood ornaments myself, but F2P and customization means it's for the greater good. I'll probably pick a cool hood ornament that doesn't seem too out of place for my own sensibilities and make the best of it. That, or just avoid them altogether and pretend they don't exist

la-la-la, I can't see it, it doesn't exist, la-la-la-la-la

LostAlgorithm · 2012-05-14, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Kipper

Dude, LostAlgorithm is going to hunt you down RL and torture you for ruining his free-to-download, free-to-play experience with your paid-for shit.....

Poor taste is torture enough, I say.

While I will never be okay with soldiers fighting in pink tutus (please, no jokes about our VS fashion sense ), I'm not going to second guess what the company needs to do to make money.

See, I don't see it as something they need to do. I see it as something they perhaps think they need to do, but really don't. I feel that the game could still be incredibly profitable if the customizations were kept more in line with the style and lore of Planetside.

Goofy, "fun" items are one way to be profitable, no doubt, but I see it as taking the easy way out and as a hit to the integrity of the IP. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I say you should keep being a watchdog for things that concern you, but as others have said in the thread, just relax about it a little bit. It's probably worth talking about this and having these discussions, but it's not worth anyone getting too bent out of shape over it.

Just because I post a lot in regards to the issue doesn't mean I'm not relaxed. I just like to dish a little bit back when people poke me, and sometimes being a little provocative is a good thing.

I'm passionate about the issue, but I'll still play Planetside 2 regardless. I just feel it'll be less of a game if they go too far with these customizations, so I'm making the point known.

Also, I didn't mean to be flipant with you. I want you to enjoy the game without it being ruined for you. I just can't feel sympathy for those people who would miss out on the rest of PS2's awesomeness over nitpicking points, but that doesn't mean those nitpicks don't have their own amount validity as well.

Ideally, I wouldn't even put in hood ornaments myself, but F2P and customization means it's for the greater good. I'll probably pick a cool hood ornament that doesn't seem too out of place for my own sensibilities and make the best of it. That, or just avoid them altogether and pretend they don't exist

Now this is a post I can respect. Thank you for posting this.

Where we differ is that I don't see these as being for the "greater good". I think they and others like you think they are, but I think the game could be better, and stronger, without them.

Nonetheless, thank you again for making a very reasonable post. /salute

Kipper · 2012-05-14, 07:34 PM

Everyone has the choice not to buy stupid stuff, so if it appears on the store - leave it, buy something planetsidey and ensure that those items are the profitable ones. Art resources will be put into what sells.

Soothsayer · 2012-05-14, 08:00 PM

I'm against anything too comedic or far removed from the militarism theme.

I felt pretty bitter when the everquest influence came into planetside and put what was already next to nonexistent development time into developing a wild west event instead of something that didn't totally disrupt my ideal planetside playtime. This is an example of what happens when you let the silly and whimsical into design decisions.

Hell, I chose Everquest 2 over WoW when that was a competition because I thought WoW's art style was terrible.

I think the team designing the customizations should look at the recent Saints Row game and take note of what not to do from there.