Will this game fail? - Page 3

J Baley · 2012-09-02, 08:05 PM

I can't believe this game will fail. It may not be what people hype themselves to think this game is but it's mad fun and with so much yet to be implemented, I can only like it more as it happens.

cellinaire · 2012-09-02, 08:15 PM

What do you mean by 'fail' ? Like, shutting down all servers within 1~2 years?

Or, while didn't achieve huge financial success like WoW, at least making profit like EQ(13+ years and still making annual expansions).

Or, if miracle happens, dozens of millions of total subscribers.

Fenrys · 2012-09-02, 08:20 PM

If Air and MAXs aren't nerfed into oblivion, it will be a failure in my eyes.

SFJake · 2012-09-02, 10:19 PM

Game has basic, basic, basic flaws. The gunplay is awful, the vehicles handle like crap, the grindy F2P crap is a joke, etc.

I'm giving it a chance until its out of Beta, but I expect crap, to be honest. I expect something that might financially be successful but will still receive all the crap I can give it. I don't want it to be another shit shooter that does nothing right, but I'm really scared it'll end up like that anyway.

Ajax · 2012-09-02, 10:54 PM

Imo... this game can not really start to enter its own until it is fully released... once outfits get fully established.... once outfits get their sops ... and have a stable enough game to start developing some real stratagies and tactics... once the command rank structure gets put in place and the zerg can at least be influenced.... once all that happens... I think we will have a beast of a game.... I am loving the beta and cant wait to see esamir!!!

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Sunrock · 2012-09-03, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Dartan

It's so strange, a while back I made this topic when I was quite impressed with the scope and graphics but now the more details emerge the more people are absolutely disappointed with every aspect of it when they actually play it for a period of time.

Do you think this is a valid indicator on how the game will be or is the public beta a huge mistake since very negative rumors are spreading everywhere?

Well... depends on how intelligent the reader is of interpret what he reeds.

You need to understand where the author is coming from and what his expectations where on the game. In general most players that "hate" on a game usually do so because he/she had way too unrealistically high expectation on the game in the first place.

And thinking there ever will be a game that does not have anything that they could have done better is also stupid. Game designers usually try to compressor as mush as they can to try to appeal to as broad audience as possible. Not saying this is a good idea in the first place, a watered down soup does not taste that good in the end of the day. But the producers only care about making as mush money as possible, not to make the best game ever.

Originally Posted by Hamma

If this game fails I will be surprised as hell.

Depends how you define "fails". So far "fails" in the MMORPG world have been defined as not getting more subs then WoW after 3 months... and if we use that definition there is a big chance it will..

But PS2 is a good game... or will be a good game. Maybe not the best game ever produced all categories, but I have played allot of games that are allot worse.

What I miss in this game is a sens of accomplishments. You can say that I'm an achievement hoe and there are not mush in this game you unlock by game play. Most things are bought either by SC or Aurixium that are earned by just being online...

**Malorn** · 2012-09-03, 01:14 AM

The answer is no.

Notser · 2012-09-03, 02:59 AM

If by fail they won't recoup the investment, no it won't. If fail to endure 9 years like PS1, no to that either. But if the game could be surpassed by another mmofps, maybe but not atm

SpottyGekko · 2012-09-03, 07:32 AM

The game can only "fail" if it does not meet SOE's earnings expectations.

So either it needs a reasonable sized playerbase spending the equivalent of a monthly sub fee, or a huge playerbase spending smallish amounts frequently. I'd bet on the former.

The only concern I have is that the "core gameplay" from PS1 may not actually be able to scale up to the relatively massive population that is foreseen for PS2. With a large portion of F2P casuals in the game, the way it is played will not be the same as the relatively controlled play of PS1 sub-based population.

If you were a PS1 subscriber, you were committed to the game and the way it worked. You kind of "bought in" to the outfit-based gameplay, and probably would not pay a sub just to "mess around" for a bit every now and then. However with F2P, that player commitment is zero.

Electrofreak · 2012-09-03, 11:15 AM

Given that the devs have basically put the game into the beta and asked us to help them define some of the core mechanics of the gameplay, I'm going to go with no, it isn't going to fail.

The people whining about the game lack the common sense to realize that this isn't a marketing beta and SOE isn't going to launch the game in 2 weeks with King of The Hill capture mechanics, glaring balance issues and half of the weapons broken.

Diehard · 2012-09-03, 11:20 AM

It still needs more marketing. GW2 and Diablo 3 market their games years before their releases. Thats why they managed to rack up lotsa sales on day 1.
At this point I still see it lacking in this department

thegreekboy · 2012-09-03, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Diehard

It still needs more marketing. GW2 and Diablo 3 market their games years before their releases. Thats why they managed to rack up lotsa sales on day 1.
At this point I still see it lacking in this department

I agree.

The trailers could also be cooler

OnexBigxHebrew · 2012-09-04, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Diehard

It still needs more marketing. GW2 and Diablo 3 market their games years before their releases. Thats why they managed to rack up lotsa sales on day 1.
At this point I still see it lacking in this department

Actually, Diablo 3 had huge day 1 sales because it was the successor to one of the most revered and high selling games of all time. Diablo 3's marketing was terrible - years of delays, then a forced and sudden shotgun release with a then-featureless build and little advertising.

Planetside is the sequel to an under-the-radar game released before technology was ready, subject to mixed reviews and mediocre sales.

Marketing will be extra important, if you ask me, because when you ask most people about planetside 2, they don't know there's a planetside 1. This is one issue that intrigued me enough to make the planetside 2 current social media status thread.

cellinaire · 2012-09-03, 08:00 PM

SOE lifted the NDA curtain early this time, so that's a good thing.

And no. This game will at least earn enough money for SOE's initial investment and us(so it means, continued development unlike PS1)

Tarconus · 2012-09-03, 10:22 PM

The only issue I have with the game right now is ttk on everything, there is just to many people shooting at you for ttk to be as low as it is.