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2012-07-09, 04:52 PM | [Ignore Me] #31 | |||
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This serves a dual purpose - it eliminates the need for your eyes/mind to take note and translate the information (orange = ignored = don't pay attention) to zero nameplate text (nothing to process = don't pay attention). Also, it protects the ignored from group head hunting to a very large degree. In PS1, some of my outfit mates would get TKed by some idiot and as many as a squad would actively hunt that person down multiple times. Imagine how easy this would be if that person's name was simplistic to pick out in a group of friendlies? Less information is better here - just turn the feature into something that lets you really ignore the presence of that individual. The biggest problem I have with turn any FF off is I think this game REALLY needs FF on to be what it's aiming to be. You should have to pick your shots at all times, you should have to worry about some dude running around in front of you. Even if you put a big timer on this sort of thing, with a F2P game, people could easily create a squad of heavily armored units (I'm guessing MAXes), have them ignored by a squad behind them, and effectively create a crazy double damage output but single damage input chokepoint. IMHO, I really just think the no FF thing has way too many holes for it not to be exploited to a very high degree. Especially when I think your goal can be achieved with FF still active. Regarding the TK fests that could occur - they tend to last about five minutes and things calm down. I'm personally not that concerned about it. Last edited by jakaul; 2012-07-09 at 04:54 PM. |
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2012-07-09, 08:29 PM | [Ignore Me] #32 | ||
Major General
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I got a simple fix for the TK problem. Just make it so that if someone gets TKed x amount of times by someone else and/or someone else in the same outfit/platoon/squad then they get weapons lock for x amount of time. There is a workaround to that but it's a bitch. :P
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2012-07-09, 10:02 PM | [Ignore Me] #33 | ||
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I love the idea of showing people who are ignoring you or who you are ignoring.
I think that any ignore list sharing is a bad idea however this could be used by super large outfit alliances to basically enforce a shunning of a person at the whim of a couple people. Get in an argument with one person and all of a sudden half the people on the server have you on ignore even though it was in tells. It would happen. You asked for examples of how it could be used to grief, I provided that one, however to be honest I can think of many others. I haven't spent a lot of time to think of specifics but I can think of issues around command chat (if it makes it's way in), I can think of black list alts popping up too (IE share your list with this toon and in turn every week this toon shares his compiled list of everyone's list with you), etc. If anything like that occurred it could do so much damage before it was fixed. I also think that the turn off of friendly fire must be out. This would be too easy to exploit by organized groups. I love the idea though, I just think that it needs to be cut back a little from what you have. Last edited by Akadios; 2012-07-09 at 10:08 PM. |
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2012-07-09, 11:07 PM | [Ignore Me] #34 | |||||
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Your arguments are well thought out and make sense. I am altering the original list now to remove the FF aspect. I think you make a compelling argument to remove it.
How is this for a compromise: players who are ignored no longer have a name tag. They have a generic tag of 'TR soldier', 'NC soldier' or 'VS soldier'. This tag would still be in a different color to give that positive visual reinforcement that ignoring too many people is affecting your gameplay experience. It would also allow you to immediately see which vehicles you cant get in so you dont waste your time, even though you wouldnt know who exactly is driving that vehicle. For now I have changed the original post to having no name tags. Tell me what you think. Better with no name tags or with generic colored name tags? Advantages of colored generic tags
Advantages of no tags
Yes that is true, sharing of ignore lists can be used by a large group to ignore one person. Here is why I am still not convinced it would be a problem though:
This all comes back to the reputation one builds for themselves or their group in the social environment of the server. The concept of working together with others and compromising to find solutions is something that all shared social groups must deal with. The easiest way to make sure you are never going to have problems? Be polite, treat everyone respectfully, help your fellow team mates, and enjoy the fact that it is entertainment but not entertainment at the expense of others. What if you dont have the social graces to be nice to other people? Simple: keep your mouth shut and dont go around doing aggravating things like bailing out of galaxy transports in mid air and leaving the two squads of people inside to die a fiery death for lols. Nobody will have a problem with you if you just follow those common sense guidelines.
I think that keeping it simple is important. Lets just hope that the disincentives against FF that the devs have instituted in the game are sufficient to stop these FF problems from getting out of hand. Last edited by TAA; 2012-07-10 at 01:04 AM. |
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