Jackhammer isn't as overpowered as you might think

[1024]

IF all you people would just stop whing about the jackhammer, pick up a ccert that is good against it, like from a longrange, then the world would be better.

[Kaikou]

once the devs modify the game so battles don't take place indoors all the time maybe the jackhammer won't be such an issue...

[Smaug]

You know honestly, I try. I try and say, ok listen to this, its not that overpowered but still, improve the other two HA weapons. Then people just post whatever they want to say, without reading other peoples posts. I mean its like they never said anything. Stop just reiterating what everyone else is saying. The MCG has the COF of an AMP. Yes we know! Thats why I said, smaller COF. Also bugger, that test where you just stand next to each other and fire would not work. Well, right now it might work with the terrible COF on the MCG, but as soon as they fix it, it won't work. Why? Because the Jackhammer is a Short range weapon, ok maybe it works well at medium range, maybe they'll fix that too. The MCG when fixed will be a medium range type weapon. Therefore if you both stood at short range and fired away, the JH would likely win, expectedly. If you stood at medium range the MCG would likely win(when fixed), expectedly. Your 'test' has a major flaw.

[Plato]

Originally posted by 12tontuna
The Lasher to a LESSER extent?

LOL - I just reread my post and I did word that badly. I meant to say that the MCG needs serious help and that the Lasher is a viable weapon but still needs a tune-up to be on par with the JH and be worth the 4 certs.

People would bitch less about the JH if they respected their own empire's HA weapon. You can circle strafe all day long with a JH, ever tried doing that with a minigun? Well use the minigun at medium range in short bursts? Cycler is better than the minigun at medium and long ranges..

I just wish the devs would acknowledge there is a problem and fix the Lasher, MCG in due course..

[Happy lil Elf]

Someone said the jackhammer being nerfed would produce a weapon only slightly better than the sweeper.

What is the MCG right now? It is a less accurate version of the cycler with double the clip size. And with that bad accuracy, the chaingun's double clip size gets canceled out, because double the shots miss. I was actually able to do more damage to a mosquito in the VR going full auto with a cycler than I was with the MCG.

MCG is simply a cycler with more ammo and less accuracy. What difference is there from a jackhammer being a better version of the sweeper?

Well for one it would be better, and two the MCG already IS as bad as a medium assault weapon, while the jackhammer is NOT.

.....I don't even know where to start >.<

[1024]

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[Plato]

The NC nerfed the thread!! Someone run them over with a mag..

[12tontuna]

When I was VS, I picked up the ONLY cert good against the Jackhammer while you're on the ground.

Magrider.

Discuss.

[Happy lil Elf]

Or you could use your sniper rifl...err I mean the Lancer.

[12tontuna]

Ya, except our snip- er sniper rifle just doesn't seem to be as good as you'd have persons believe.

No, for me, the best possible weapon against the Jackhammer is the Magrider.

Or, as I call it, the DeathStar.

[Arakiel]

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
Or you could use your sniper rifl...err I mean the Lancer.

Why isn't the lancer even in the same league as the jackhammer? Well, other than one being an AV wep and one being a HA.. but you brought it up, so, let's discuss:

* The lancer's CoF expands extremely rapidly, making it an almost forced sit-and-crouch weeapon. The jackhammer doesn't lose effectiveness even when running with surge.
* Lancer ammo is 3x3 for 6 shots. Jackhammer ammo is 2x2 for 30 shots. (I think? Not sure on the 3x3 and 2x2, but the lancer boxes are uh.. the big ones.)
* The lancer is an exact fire weapon. The jackhammer hits pretty much anything in the center of the screen of the user.
* The lancer does less damage per second as compared to the jackhammer.
* The lancer has both a delay between charge and firing, as well as a delay between when the beam actually hits the target. The jackhammer is point-and-click.
* The jackhammer is an indoor weapon. The lancer is an outdoor weapon. There are no CCs outdoors.

Etc, etc. Saying that the lancer is overpowered when compared to the jackhammer is a nice attempt at averting blame, but the lancer doesn't bring half the potency to the battlefield that the jackhammer does.

[Arakiel]

(double post, bleh)